Broken links aside (fix incoming), #FDroid raises the case against the #Google developer forced registration once again
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So, correct me if i'm wrong, the matter is this: if the google diktat will be actually enforced, no app not signed by google will be able to run on android.
@jones @sabrinaweb71 We see this confusion a lot. Google will only hold "a list of application ids and their associated signatures" that they *approved*. The signing part continues as usual. Play apps after Nov 2021 will be signed by Google, older ones will be signed by the developers. On F-Droid, apps are signed by the developers (reproducible builds) or by F-Droid.
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@jones @sabrinaweb71 We see this confusion a lot. Google will only hold "a list of application ids and their associated signatures" that they *approved*. The signing part continues as usual. Play apps after Nov 2021 will be signed by Google, older ones will be signed by the developers. On F-Droid, apps are signed by the developers (reproducible builds) or by F-Droid.
Thank you. So it would be technically possible to keep f-droid.org running, even if google will actually enforce their diktat (as is very very probable, i seem to understand), to distribute the apps of those developers who would not register with google, right? And maybe also the apps of those developers who would?
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Thank you. So it would be technically possible to keep f-droid.org running, even if google will actually enforce their diktat (as is very very probable, i seem to understand), to distribute the apps of those developers who would not register with google, right? And maybe also the apps of those developers who would?
@jones @sabrinaweb71 We sure do can, but we are also aware that the wast majority of our users is not running Google-free devices.
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@jones @sabrinaweb71 We sure do can, but we are also aware that the wast majority of our users is not running Google-free devices.
@fdroidorg @sabrinaweb71
So these apps that f-droid.org could still distribute, regardless of whether developers will choose to register with google or not, will *not* run on any phone with... what? The "google play services"? -
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So these apps that f-droid.org could still distribute, regardless of whether developers will choose to register with google or not, will *not* run on any phone with... what? The "google play services"?@jones @sabrinaweb71 On the so called "stock" phones that come with Google apps, yes.
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@jones @sabrinaweb71 On the so called "stock" phones that come with Google apps, yes.
@fdroidorg @sabrinaweb71
Thank you :)
So f-droid would still work only on fairphones and other very costly degoogled phones, right? -
@fdroidorg @sabrinaweb71
Thank you :)
So f-droid would still work only on fairphones and other very costly degoogled phones, right?@jones@todon.nl @fdroidorg@floss.social @sabrinaweb71@sociale.network only on murena fairphones, not the normal google ones. it would also (from what i understand) work on any android phone running a non-google rom, like a pixel with grapheneOS
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@jones@todon.nl @fdroidorg@floss.social @sabrinaweb71@sociale.network only on murena fairphones, not the normal google ones. it would also (from what i understand) work on any android phone running a non-google rom, like a pixel with grapheneOS
@tauon @fdroidorg @sabrinaweb71
Thank you :)
So, it would run only for an even smaller user base of people with lots of money. -
@tauon @fdroidorg @sabrinaweb71
Thank you :)
So, it would run only for an even smaller user base of people with lots of money.@jones@todon.nl @fdroidorg@floss.social @sabrinaweb71@sociale.network i wouldn't say "lots of money", you could get a phone that can run a non-google os for relatively cheap, if your own phone can't do it (although, would you really want to wipe your phone to unlock the bootloader?)
it just means people can't use their existing setup to run the apps, which is mega bullshit (and yes, they shouldn't have to pay more to be able to) -
@jones@todon.nl @fdroidorg@floss.social @sabrinaweb71@sociale.network i wouldn't say "lots of money", you could get a phone that can run a non-google os for relatively cheap, if your own phone can't do it (although, would you really want to wipe your phone to unlock the bootloader?)
it just means people can't use their existing setup to run the apps, which is mega bullshit (and yes, they shouldn't have to pay more to be able to)@tauon @fdroidorg @sabrinaweb71 @jones my moto g32 refurbished 79€ with CalyxOS
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