Are Western Digital drives trustworthy these days.
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@mcc @jmhill @Foritus While SSDs can lose data when unpowered, that’s more of a boogeyman than a real problem. It’s like cell wear. Problems can be induced under extreme conditions. As long as you stick to the brands which make their own flash, SSDs practically never die from wear, and they almost never lose data even going without power for years.
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Okay but seriously: Should I NTFS? People are saying the Linux NTFS driver is "pretty good" "perfectly adequate" is "adequate" what I'm looking for with my backup HD
@mcc ntfs-3g Is pretty good. I've even used some of their additional tooling to rescue data from a dead disk (had lots of dead blocks)
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@rotopenguin @Foritus Okay.
Assuming I understand these things in principle but not in detail and am looking for actual help— used to, when I used macs, I could create a "Sparse Bundle Disk Image" and it was like a hard drive in a file, which could grow and and shrink returning space to the host disk as it shrank, and could be encrypted, and could be compressed. Is this a thing I can do from Linux? What's the best way? (Assume for this one question I no longer care about Windows.)
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@mcc i'm surprised to see that sid no longer marks all NTFS drivers as broken and in fact ships a ntfs3.ko, but even the FUSE ntfs-3g implementation has been generally understood as good enough at least for reading for a long time, and windows unfortunately forces your hand here
@nabijaczleweli @mcc there are two NTFS implementations, ntfs-3g and ntfs-plus. Plus is faster and considered more modern, but iirc at least one Linux distro still prefers 3g because they consider plus buggy.
Regardless, my understanding is that neither of them actually support basic features like the journal, so I wouldn't trust them for anything important personally. That said they might not be worse than exfat, just very very complicated in comparison.
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Hey if I want to format an HD for archival purposes, and I want it to be accessible from both Windows* and Linux** without problems, do I use… exfat? Will exfat freak out if I format it at absurdly high sizes like 12 TB, or give me an annoyingly high "minimum file size" or something? Are there any more-reliable/journaled FSes that both these OSes are happy with?
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** Let's say Debian Trixie@mcc I don’t know what any of this means but I’m scared for you
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@mcc I don’t know what any of this means but I’m scared for you
@qoqo941305 Computer is scary sometimes
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Hey if I want to format an HD for archival purposes, and I want it to be accessible from both Windows* and Linux** without problems, do I use… exfat? Will exfat freak out if I format it at absurdly high sizes like 12 TB, or give me an annoyingly high "minimum file size" or something? Are there any more-reliable/journaled FSes that both these OSes are happy with?
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** Let's say Debian Trixie@mcc I used ntfs drives on linux for a while after switching but I've converted them both to btrfs. I had no issues with them being ntfs, but there had been an issue with corruption when using them in linux & windows, that might already be fixed though
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Okay but seriously: Should I NTFS? People are saying the Linux NTFS driver is "pretty good" "perfectly adequate" is "adequate" what I'm looking for with my backup HD
@mcc fwiw, my drives are NTFS-formatted and I've had no issues accessing my files from any of my drives between windows and a few different linux distros.
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@rotopenguin @Foritus Okay.
Assuming I understand these things in principle but not in detail and am looking for actual help— used to, when I used macs, I could create a "Sparse Bundle Disk Image" and it was like a hard drive in a file, which could grow and and shrink returning space to the host disk as it shrank, and could be encrypted, and could be compressed. Is this a thing I can do from Linux? What's the best way? (Assume for this one question I no longer care about Windows.)
@mcc @rotopenguin @Foritus so like... a folder?
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@mcc @rotopenguin @Foritus so like... a folder?
@aeva @rotopenguin @Foritus A folder has several limitations by comparison. It cannot be compressed, it cannot be encrypted with a different key from the drive which contains it, it cannot be mounted read-only, and it cannot be unmounted.
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@rotopenguin @Foritus Okay.
Assuming I understand these things in principle but not in detail and am looking for actual help— used to, when I used macs, I could create a "Sparse Bundle Disk Image" and it was like a hard drive in a file, which could grow and and shrink returning space to the host disk as it shrank, and could be encrypted, and could be compressed. Is this a thing I can do from Linux? What's the best way? (Assume for this one question I no longer care about Windows.)
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Okay but seriously: Should I NTFS? People are saying the Linux NTFS driver is "pretty good" "perfectly adequate" is "adequate" what I'm looking for with my backup HD
@mcc I've had some issues with NTFS, mostly if my computer crashes, I need to boot into Windows and do
chkdsk /fon them to repair them. Other than that it works mostly fine.Steam on Linux does not seem to like NTFS (I've had a couple of games work on NTFS but loads more not) but if it's just for archival I guess that won't be an issue?
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@rotopenguin @Foritus Okay.
Assuming I understand these things in principle but not in detail and am looking for actual help— used to, when I used macs, I could create a "Sparse Bundle Disk Image" and it was like a hard drive in a file, which could grow and and shrink returning space to the host disk as it shrank, and could be encrypted, and could be compressed. Is this a thing I can do from Linux? What's the best way? (Assume for this one question I no longer care about Windows.)
@mcc @rotopenguin @Foritus I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Mac OS sparse bundle shrink.
A ZFS bitstream file works roughly that way, though it’s not carved up into smaller, FAT32-friendly chunks. You get one using ‘zfs send’, and you should be able to mount it directly. I don’t personally use btrfs, but I would expect it to have similar capabilities.
Shrinking such a file when data is removed would involve another ‘zfs send’ operation to a new file on the disk, so you would need at least the size of the file in free space.