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@jpm @neoluddite @zzt I’ve recently been returning to the idea of finally setting up a pi hole with a Raspberry Pi, but this thread gives me pause. Would it be better to do it on an Orange Pi than a Raspberry Pi?
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@jpm @neoluddite @zzt I’ve recently been returning to the idea of finally setting up a pi hole with a Raspberry Pi, but this thread gives me pause. Would it be better to do it on an Orange Pi than a Raspberry Pi?
@Brendanjones @jpm @neoluddite I highly recommend used x86 hardware for non-embedded computing tasks (essentially anything where you don’t need GPIOs, a specific form factor, or passive cooling).
my home file server is a Dell Optiplex 9020M USFF that I got from an enterprise surplus sale for $20. it’s currently running about 10 fairly heavy daemons and a ZFS NAS with the 8GB RAM it came with. they’re a bit more expensive now — eBay says $40, but it’ll be cheaper if it’s available locally
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@Brendanjones @jpm @neoluddite I highly recommend used x86 hardware for non-embedded computing tasks (essentially anything where you don’t need GPIOs, a specific form factor, or passive cooling).
my home file server is a Dell Optiplex 9020M USFF that I got from an enterprise surplus sale for $20. it’s currently running about 10 fairly heavy daemons and a ZFS NAS with the 8GB RAM it came with. they’re a bit more expensive now — eBay says $40, but it’ll be cheaper if it’s available locally
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@Brendanjones @jpm @neoluddite in spite of its name, it looks like pi-hole will work fine on x86 hardware: https://docs.pi-hole.net/main/prerequisites/ from my experience, it’ll run much better on x86 than it will on the pi. it seems like Debian, Ubuntu, and Fedora are officially supported.
if you go for one of the Dells I mentioned, take note of its ports and available upgrades (this is enterprise hardware so Dell’s docs are still available). if you need above gigabit Ethernet, you may need a USB adapter.
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So are the RiscV SBCs any better?
@resuna someone with more experience with the SBCs than me might have to answer that — I like the instruction set and have tinkered with it some on FPGAs, but most of my RISC-V SBC experience is with the Ox64, which I can’t recommend because they’re awful janky things that I’m not convinced anyone has used successfully in a project, but that’s more a Pine64 problem than a RISC-V one.
I’d be happy to hear if there’s a good vendor doing open RISC-V hardware.
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@Brendanjones @jpm @neoluddite I highly recommend used x86 hardware for non-embedded computing tasks (essentially anything where you don’t need GPIOs, a specific form factor, or passive cooling).
my home file server is a Dell Optiplex 9020M USFF that I got from an enterprise surplus sale for $20. it’s currently running about 10 fairly heavy daemons and a ZFS NAS with the 8GB RAM it came with. they’re a bit more expensive now — eBay says $40, but it’ll be cheaper if it’s available locally
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@zzt @Brendanjones @jpm @neoluddite Those Optiplex USFF machines are no joke. I have a couple running various tasks now and they haven't skipped a beat. The cooling system is remarkably quiet and effective for what it is.
Dare I say the Intel igpu on these is perfectly fine and dandy too
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@zzt @Brendanjones @jpm @neoluddite Those Optiplex USFF machines are no joke. I have a couple running various tasks now and they haven't skipped a beat. The cooling system is remarkably quiet and effective for what it is.
Dare I say the Intel igpu on these is perfectly fine and dandy too
@vxo @Brendanjones @jpm @neoluddite exactly! I actually have a whole ryzen+ARC desktop I built from used parts (a nightmare build for various reasons) to replace the 9020M in case I run out of resources on the machine, but it’s still chugging along reliably enough that taking it down and swapping the deployment over hasn’t made my todo list yet
the desktop’s also gonna be louder than the USFF even though it’s a box full of noctua and I’m not looking forward to that
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@Brendanjones @jpm @neoluddite I highly recommend used x86 hardware for non-embedded computing tasks (essentially anything where you don’t need GPIOs, a specific form factor, or passive cooling).
my home file server is a Dell Optiplex 9020M USFF that I got from an enterprise surplus sale for $20. it’s currently running about 10 fairly heavy daemons and a ZFS NAS with the 8GB RAM it came with. they’re a bit more expensive now — eBay says $40, but it’ll be cheaper if it’s available locally
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@zzt @Brendanjones @jpm @neoluddite I've been on the market for a surplus USFF PC for a while now but all I see is 5 to 10 times that price on eBay (in Europe). If I had found one for 20$ I would have bought it in a heartbeat
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@zzt @Brendanjones @jpm @neoluddite I've been on the market for a surplus USFF PC for a while now but all I see is 5 to 10 times that price on eBay (in Europe). If I had found one for 20$ I would have bought it in a heartbeat
@trkzn don't know what country you're in but this kind of refurbished hardware reseller is maybe what you're looking for https://www.remarkt.nl/desktops (I'm not connected to this in any way fwiw).
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@Brendanjones @jpm @neoluddite I highly recommend used x86 hardware for non-embedded computing tasks (essentially anything where you don’t need GPIOs, a specific form factor, or passive cooling).
my home file server is a Dell Optiplex 9020M USFF that I got from an enterprise surplus sale for $20. it’s currently running about 10 fairly heavy daemons and a ZFS NAS with the 8GB RAM it came with. they’re a bit more expensive now — eBay says $40, but it’ll be cheaper if it’s available locally
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@zzt @Brendanjones @jpm @neoluddite I've had great luck running a pihole on old laptops that have wired ethernet. So, totally agree on small power efficient x86 systems.
All our normal laptops run Linux, so they just have a local pihole install as well. Nice for travel.
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@trkzn don't know what country you're in but this kind of refurbished hardware reseller is maybe what you're looking for https://www.remarkt.nl/desktops (I'm not connected to this in any way fwiw).
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@crzwdjk @arichtman @jpm @neoluddite for me, Broadcom and Igalia working together on Mesa and DRM drivers is almost indistinguishable from Rockchip and Collabora doing the same. it’s great to have but I won’t applaud it, because upstreaming drivers in a way that barely checks boxes is pretty standard for embedded vendors. Rockchip just doesn’t have a PR arm shaped like a nonprofit to make it look fluffier than it is, and they didn’t structure their architecture such that the GPU is in control.
@zzt On a technical and slightly pedantic point it's not the "GPU" as such that's in control, it's an embedded ARM (Cortex-M I think) secondary processor that controls the boot process. Which is not that unusual for SoCs really, the unusual thing about the Raspberry Pi is that it runs an opaque blob all the way until loading the Linux kernel and that that opaque blob keeps running even after the kernel boots, Linux AFAIK has no driver that uses the secondary processor.
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@davidgerard @samuel Yeah I've been watching eBay for a while, but as I'm looking for 8 gigs machine with a mid range CPU prices tend to go higher and higher these days.
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@release_candidate they are!
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@superuserdo it's coming! 😉
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@DigiDavidex appena le sue coronarie finiscono il computo della quantità di colesterolo derivato da decenni di salsicce.
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@mcc @rotopenguin @Foritus I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Mac OS sparse bundle shrink.
A ZFS bitstream file works roughly that way, though it’s not carved up into smaller, FAT32-friendly chunks. You get one using ‘zfs send’, and you should be able to mount it directly. I don’t personally use btrfs, but I would expect it to have similar capabilities.
Shrinking such a file when data is removed would involve another ‘zfs send’ operation to a new file on the disk, so you would need at least the size of the file in free space.
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@mcc I've had some issues with NTFS, mostly if my computer crashes, I need to boot into Windows and do chkdsk /f on them to repair them. Other than that it works mostly fine.
Steam on Linux does not seem to like NTFS (I've had a couple of games work on NTFS but loads more not) but if it's just for archival I guess that won't be an issue?
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@leguinian_utopia (I’ve always dreamt of having a home with a corner like this.)
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@overeducatedredneck @stefano I should do that, I've been doing it manually.
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@mcc 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
