OK I'm wrapping up the script for my GrapheneOS almost-three-year-review video.

[pence@scholar.social]

@ekuber @posiputt @vkc +1. This is what has me scared about any alternative OSes at the moment, too.

[mcbaumwolle@mastodon.social]

@vkc I am sure you will mention this in the video, but let me ask regardless. Some apps simply won't work on #GrapheneOS due to the silly Play Integrity API or other factors. For example, I cannot switch right now, as my health insurance app will not work - at all - and I need it a lot. So did you encounter any annoying apps like this and how did or would you resolve this? I thought about a secondary phone but am not sure. Thanks!

[wickedshell@mastodon.social]

@vkc App "store" recommendations. I've installed some stuff off of F-Droid, but have started feeling unsure about it due to some of the drama around Syncthing-fork, as well generic internet debate on the topic. Minimizing the usage of google play is a strong desire, but something that has a normal release/update pipeline would be nice.

[dcdeejay@mastodon.online]

@vkc As an iOS user who has nearly zero experience with anything Android, I'd love to know if I can buy a supported Pixel to install & familiarize myself with grapheneOS without moving my sim card over, so I don't get stuck between phones for things like 2FA auth 😅 so I can complete my migration when it feels right. Thanks!

[depereo@mastodon.social]

@vkc keen to understand the backup&restore process, any gotchas there, especially moving between models of phone.

[antoniovr@mastodon.social]

@wickedshell @vkc what is the drama around Syncthing-fork?? I don't understand what is/was the problem...

[mark@canuck.social]

@vkc I run GOS on my pixel I think my only question/comment is that I'd like to see more support for Unified Push for doing self-hosted push in FOSS apps (nextcloud/signal or xmpp/thunderbird/SIP/etc.) and also I'm looking forward to them having their own hardware or at least options other than google. As a Canadian I'd prefer to avoid any Chinese or American tech that isn't full open source ideally including the baseband.

[antoniovr@mastodon.social]

@ekuber @posiputt @vkc I would ask exactly the same questions as the only things I am afraid is bank apps/payments... I look forward to watch the video!

[bnys@lasersword.club]

@vkc what's an inexpensive phone to try graphene on

[wickedshell@mastodon.social]

@antoniovr @vkc https://www.heise.de/en/news/Key-handover-in-the-dark-Syncthing-fork-community-raises-alarm-11107337.html is a bit of a summary

[thecyberwitch@mastodon.social]

@vkc do you feel that the drama at all affects the product and its future? I daily drive Graphene with few bugs and no complaints for my use case, but even after the years of the dev going after Techlore and Rossmann, I still see a lot of aggression from him against anything deemed a "competitor." This might be too broad a topic to just be a video segment, but it is a concern what we hold standards to for conduct vs product in the overall health of the privacy community.

[ilias@discuss.systems]

@neodiablow @vkc

I can answer some questions;

Most banking apps do work. There is an unoffical compatibility list; https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/

Only Google's tap-to-pay doesn't work because, well, Google is gate keeping that functionality with Play Integrity (Attestation).

[wickedshell@mastodon.social]

@antoniovr @vkc I also have not kept up with this, so it may not be a real thing.