I find this shocking:

[bflipp@vmst.io]

@futurebird @goaty

He’s been going on shows and showing autopsy photos of his brother that don’t add up to the official story and making a fuss about it when he (as the only person who knows where his brother is buried) could have the body exhumed and re-examined at any time.

[zl2tod@mastodon.online]

@futurebird

Agreed, I see no evidence for the still alive thing, but there is at least circumstantial evidence for the murder hypothesis.

[futurebird@sauropods.win]

@zl2tod

My annoyance with it goes deeper than the lack of evidence. Normally when you have a company or the government acting shady like this. I'm rather patient with the theories that grow to fill the gap. They earned it.

But the idea that's "Epstein is alive" is just so detached from how any of this could possibly work ... it's TV series thinking.

*Who* would want to keep him alive? Isn't the whole point that there were so many who wanted him gone?

[zl2tod@mastodon.online]

@futurebird

Which begs the question of who may wish to promote irrational hypotheses. It's Q-Anon territory. Distraction.

[quinn@social.circl.lu]

@futurebird They're all disposable to each other, all in a giant game of insecurity and status that drives them insane. None of them can sit quietly, by themselves, thinking, and just be ok, much less happy.

[futurebird@sauropods.win]

@bflipp @goaty

I thought you were implying that he doesn't want to investigate further. Has he said he's opposed to doing it?

I would imagine he might have some mixed feelings about the guy. He might also be scared of the people who could have killed him?

Exhuming is expensive. Who would pay for it? He has a medical examiner but unless he plans on suing the government what is the point?

[futurebird@sauropods.win]

@zl2tod

I kind of wonder if the "he lives" story is out there to make the much less wild

"maybe they just let him kill himself because it solved some problems" theory

and the

"someone killed him" theory

seem less credible.

I consider both very reasonable. Impossible to rule out. Silly not to consider.

[clintruin@mastodon.social]

@zl2tod @futurebird
Distraction, yes. Obstufication (muddying the waters) FOR SURE.
Ie) It becomes impossible for the 'average person' to take seriously anything coming out of the mouths of people saying he's still alive...and This Is Choreographed.

[futurebird@sauropods.win]

@quinn

It's kind of the only way I can rationalize the way the treated all those young women, and teens, and "tweens" ... and little girls.

It's not a rare or bizarre kind of evil. It's the cruelty of the kind of voice says "well that's how the world works honey, life's not fair"

These people have no "friends" or "family" just useful (and useless) people.

[paninid@mastodon.world]

@futurebird @quinn

People with pathologies view the world as enablers and everyone else.

[mister914@masto.ai]

@futurebird I read that they had the statement about his death written the day BEFORE he died too.

I wonder if he isn't alive.

[level98@mastodon.social]

@futurebird @zl2tod "Even Epstein was disposable to these people."

They would all happily throw each other under a bus if it benefited them.

[futurebird@sauropods.win]

@mister914

I don't think so.

Too much of a loose end.

[quinn@social.circl.lu]

@futurebird it's a deeply tragic life. It's gone so wrong that they lose sight of basic human decency, and there's no one who can sit them down and get them on the straight and narrow.

[cwicseolfor@zeroes.ca]

@quinn @futurebird Anyone who could would be using force, because there’s no end of people who would have done it if they were in the least inclined to listen. For me that’s the point where the tragedy of somebody gone down the wrong road leaks out and all that’s left is abomination. They had every chance to be better, every imaginable resource, so the shutting of every door on a return to humanity was a choice.

[laukidh@infosec.exchange]

@futurebird @waitworry yeah, I feel like trying to explain this stuff makes me sound off my rocker https://infosec.exchange/@Laukidh/116083214080559202

[tadbithuman@mastodon.social]

@Laukidh @futurebird @waitworry

There are real conspiracies, and then there are conspiracies that 'law enforcement' (whatever the fuck that term means now) charge people with, and, the conspiracies American government alleges others engage in. Some may be real, some made up...

[clawfulneutral@soc.port0.org]

@futurebird@sauropods.win they deleted it because Epstein didn't kill himself.

[bflipp@vmst.io]

@futurebird @goaty

He’s actively going on shows stoking conspiracies around his brother being murdered in prison but not moving forward with examining the body again. It’s all very fishy.

[filobus@sociale.network]

@futurebird follow the money