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➡️ France announced today it’s phasing out Teams, Zoom, etc. to be replaced with a French/European solution called Visio.
The data is hosted on @outscale
Transcripts and subtitles are also handled by French providers.
The target is set on 2027 for government agencies.
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@HI_Greens
But "Visio" has existed for years for drawing charts etc@AlisonW I remember that software too; could it just be the same name?
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@woody It's rather a shame that it's not suitable for webinars, just smaller meetings.
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@woody It's rather a shame that it's not suitable for webinars, just smaller meetings.
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@AlisonW I remember that software too; could it just be the same name?
@HI_Greens
Definitely is. -
@woody It's rather a shame that it's not suitable for webinars, just smaller meetings.
@HI_Greens @woody the french state has another option for larger meetings and webinars though, it's called "Webinaire de l'État" and is based on #BigBlueButton and says it supports up to 350 people, as opposed to only 150 for Visio.
https://webinaire.numerique.gouv.fr/home -
➡️ France announced today it’s phasing out Teams, Zoom, etc. to be replaced with a French/European solution called Visio.
The data is hosted on @outscale
Transcripts and subtitles are also handled by French providers.
The target is set on 2027 for government agencies.
@HI_Greens Thx - interesting https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet
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@woody We haven't tried it out yet, we just found out about the French gov't's plans today.
One of us tried out a conference platform called BlueJeans, which came out at the same time as Zoom and had vastly better sound, but it did not survive as far as she knows. -
➡️ France announced today it’s phasing out Teams, Zoom, etc. to be replaced with a French/European solution called Visio.
The data is hosted on @outscale
Transcripts and subtitles are also handled by French providers.
The target is set on 2027 for government agencies.
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➡️ France announced today it’s phasing out Teams, Zoom, etc. to be replaced with a French/European solution called Visio.
The data is hosted on @outscale
Transcripts and subtitles are also handled by French providers.
The target is set on 2027 for government agencies.
@HI_Greens Congratulations!
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➡️ France announced today it’s phasing out Teams, Zoom, etc. to be replaced with a French/European solution called Visio.
The data is hosted on @outscale
Transcripts and subtitles are also handled by French providers.
The target is set on 2027 for government agencies.
@HI_Greens different than the Microsoft graphics tool they bought years ago? That was kinda crappy but a lot of companies and governments bought it 30 years ago...
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➡️ France announced today it’s phasing out Teams, Zoom, etc. to be replaced with a French/European solution called Visio.
The data is hosted on @outscale
Transcripts and subtitles are also handled by French providers.
The target is set on 2027 for government agencies.
@HI_Greens
Good. No one should repeat American tech companies. -
@HI_Greens different than the Microsoft graphics tool they bought years ago? That was kinda crappy but a lot of companies and governments bought it 30 years ago...
@the_turtle I think they've just used the same name.
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@the_turtle I think they've just used the same name.
@HI_Greens so microsoft perhaps could start some trademark bullshit. Ideally the French/EU code is so much better the "old" Visio gets forgotten.
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@woody We haven't tried it out yet, we just found out about the French gov't's plans today.
One of us tried out a conference platform called BlueJeans, which came out at the same time as Zoom and had vastly better sound, but it did not survive as far as she knows.@HI_Greens
Yeah, Bluejeans was bought by Verizon and shut down. We've used Jitsi for the last ten years, and generally been happy with it, but it doesn't stretch to more than about 30 users very gracefully. -
➡️ France announced today it’s phasing out Teams, Zoom, etc. to be replaced with a French/European solution called Visio.
The data is hosted on @outscale
Transcripts and subtitles are also handled by French providers.
The target is set on 2027 for government agencies.
@HI_Greens how silly, they name it like the microsoft product for doing 2D vector graphics. Didn't they do any research?
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@HI_Greens @woody the french state has another option for larger meetings and webinars though, it's called "Webinaire de l'État" and is based on #BigBlueButton and says it supports up to 350 people, as opposed to only 150 for Visio.
https://webinaire.numerique.gouv.fr/home@Equity7804 @HI_Greens
Yeah, to the best of my knowledge Big Blue Button has been widely used in American schools, so has a very active base of code contributors, but is pretty much targeted at the seminar use-case. But I haven't ever run it myself, so that's my second-hand impression. -
@woody We haven't tried it out yet, we just found out about the French gov't's plans today.
One of us tried out a conference platform called BlueJeans, which came out at the same time as Zoom and had vastly better sound, but it did not survive as far as she knows.@HI_Greens @woody Having a very quick look at the github of La suite Meet https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet it seems it's an implementation of another project called LiveKit. A recent blog post of LiveKit talks about their "Grok Voice Agent API in partnership with xAI". The beauty of FLOSS, no need to agree with the original developer!
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@HI_Greens @woody Having a very quick look at the github of La suite Meet https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet it seems it's an implementation of another project called LiveKit. A recent blog post of LiveKit talks about their "Grok Voice Agent API in partnership with xAI". The beauty of FLOSS, no need to agree with the original developer!
@CubeThoughts Yuck! That doesn't sound very good
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@HI_Greens @woody Having a very quick look at the github of La suite Meet https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet it seems it's an implementation of another project called LiveKit. A recent blog post of LiveKit talks about their "Grok Voice Agent API in partnership with xAI". The beauty of FLOSS, no need to agree with the original developer!
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@davew @dangoodin will take a look, thanks!
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The issue is not the quality of OSS alternatives. It's that end users don't want to even think about hosting and infrastructure (leaving aside network effects for now). The same way they don't want to think about the plumbing in their home, and just call a plumber if it's not working. So I see the issue of trustworthy IT infrastructure to be conceptually similar to fatbergs, which are a mess that centralised authorities pay millions to clean up.
That's not exactly giving hope; but I would say that what makes it approachable to end users requires managed infrastructure that they don't need to think about. Including paying for it, as users have also been trained to expect to get consumer digital services for free. It's a high bar, but Signal and mastodon have some success because they provide this. DIY options like installing Linux or hosting your own service do not.
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Easy for you. Not for non technologiests.
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I take it you've never been a member of a union or non-technologist non-profit org.
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Yes, because you're a technologist and they're not. Patronizing them is counterproductive.
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This is a phenomenal, long-but-worth-watching stand-up set by Josh Johnson, recently in London. A smart and astute man at the least of times - and he’s 💯 on point here. I encourage folks to watch this one.
We need to trust in people, build communities, connect with one another, and call out what is wrong.
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@thomasareed @dangoodin I'm often amazed at the inability of "regular people" to follow instructions, even on a step by step guide.
