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@baconandcoconut @glyph though personally if we were to state our goal for computers it's more about art:
computers should be tools to expand the human potential for creation, discover, and connection with each other
@baconandcoconut @glyph notice that "democratization" is a theory of change, whereas our thing about potential is a desired end goal. we feel it's important to know what ideal world we're looking for, before we start thinking about the means by which we get there from here.
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@baconandcoconut @glyph notice that "democratization" is a theory of change, whereas our thing about potential is a desired end goal. we feel it's important to know what ideal world we're looking for, before we start thinking about the means by which we get there from here.
@baconandcoconut @glyph there's an alternate lens on "what went wrong" with the ideals everyone held for computing in the 1990s, which is simply that democratizing access information does not automatically lead solely to positive change, such as magnifying self-expression and demolishing the prison in the mind; it also leads to negative change, such as magnifying hate
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@baconandcoconut @glyph there's an alternate lens on "what went wrong" with the ideals everyone held for computing in the 1990s, which is simply that democratizing access information does not automatically lead solely to positive change, such as magnifying self-expression and demolishing the prison in the mind; it also leads to negative change, such as magnifying hate
@baconandcoconut @glyph that way of putting it is also true, but we think it's also important to address why the people who'd been fighting for it stopped doing so, so that's why we lead with the other lens
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@baconandcoconut @glyph that way of putting it is also true, but we think it's also important to address why the people who'd been fighting for it stopped doing so, so that's why we lead with the other lens
@baconandcoconut @glyph this is pretty abstract and we don't know whether anyone is following it, so we'll stop there, but we wanted to share it... we think this kind of analysis is important, it lays the groundwork for strategizing
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@glyph bingo. You have absolutely hit the nail on the head. I've been struggling to articulate this for ages. This is exactly right.
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@glyph ESPECIALLY because then we might think the likes of IBM .... are okay. (THo' yea, we didn't get an IBM computer, we got an IBM clone that dad's co-worker put together in his basement.)
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@glyph Right. THings didn't get taken apart and rebuilt. Some cool things were *built.* And we can figure out new ways to build more good stuff.
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@etsyy @glyph I guess I'm not sure that we do "collectively act against our own best interests?" I think people reliably act in their own best interests but that we don't all agree on what interests we should prioritize for ourselves or our community. I think that privacy is important and others may think that safety and convenience are more important.
@baconandcoconut @etsyy @glyph and ... it takes a critical mass to get momentum.
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@glyph I hold in my left hand the essay _The Californian Ideology_, about the birth of Silicon Valley.
I hold in my right hand Jordan Peele's and Bradley Whitford's note-perfect depiction of the successful white hippie in _Get Out_ in all his self-assured and liberated power to casually oppress.
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@glyph i like the idea that some forms of time are civil and some are not
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@glyph i like the idea that some forms of time are civil and some are not
@glyph barbaric time when
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@glyph barbaric time when
@Forbearance it's a bit less ambiguous than some of the other names for this type of timekeeping, i.e. "wall clock time" which is ambiguous for a few other concepts https://fritter.readthedocs.io/en/latest/civil.html
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@Forbearance it's a bit less ambiguous than some of the other names for this type of timekeeping, i.e. "wall clock time" which is ambiguous for a few other concepts https://fritter.readthedocs.io/en/latest/civil.html
@glyph oh hey you can teach mypy if your times are aware
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@glyph oh hey you can teach mypy if your times are aware
@Forbearance yeah that's another library I maintain 🙃
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@etsyy @baconandcoconut @glyph Trying to figure out human nature from analyzing the arc of computer development, even in a social context, would be extremely difficult. While there are some sociological and philosophical constructs to explain it, suffice it to say that this is something human beings just do.
@scooter @baconandcoconut @etsyy @glyph
according to this Mayan shaman :
https://www.thesunmagazine.org/issues/304/saving-the-indigenous-soul
“the spiritual debt that must be paid for the creation of (any) such a tool is great”
Or, To paraphrase Douglas Adams :
“we’ve all made a big mistake in using knives as technology in the first place.“
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/753438-many-were-increasingly-of-the-opinion-that-they-d-all-made
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@morgan @glyph You can definitely make Google accounts with non Google email addresses. I and other family members have a number of them, some even made recently. The setup process for a new phone might not allow creation of new Google accounts that way, but you can sign in to them on new phones and in general you can make them.
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@morgan @glyph Last time I did it, the big stumbling block I hit was that it wanted me to verify with a phone, and the link was seemingly bogus (wouldn't open). It turned out it was a link that was supposed to open an an SMS intent to send a fixed string to a particular number. Once I decoded it and sent the SMS by hand, everything worked.
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@glyph your post about the fritter update nudged me into checking in on the Linux bits of Pomodouroboros last night
Seems like there's some GTK jank (I guess maybe I have a different version?) but sorting out some bits in the UI XML I was able to get the progress bar to appear once again, and the calendar/list UI showed up as well.
Exciting stuff :D
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@glyph your post about the fritter update nudged me into checking in on the Linux bits of Pomodouroboros last night
Seems like there's some GTK jank (I guess maybe I have a different version?) but sorting out some bits in the UI XML I was able to get the progress bar to appear once again, and the calendar/list UI showed up as well.
Exciting stuff :D
@SnoopJ I am going to be focusing on productionizing the new model since I think the Linux concept is somewhat proven at this point, and given how hard it is to do anything there, I might as well get the more interesting stuff fixed up. (In the new model, many more things are Observable and thus should be easier to hook up to GTK+ widgets anyway)
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@SnoopJ I am going to be focusing on productionizing the new model since I think the Linux concept is somewhat proven at this point, and given how hard it is to do anything there, I might as well get the more interesting stuff fixed up. (In the new model, many more things are Observable and thus should be easier to hook up to GTK+ widgets anyway)
@glyph yee haw
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@Sirchrism le consultazioni sono uno strumento frequentemente adottato dall'Unione
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@rl_dane I once dropped my work Thinkpad down two flights of concrete stairs. Still worked. They're indestructible. 🔥
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Messaggio in codice da Qaanaaq
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Avete fatto bene ad accendere i caloriferi...
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#caturday #CatsOfMastodon #Miagolina
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@poleguy yes, ty! In real time wasd control.
On video below it’s how I see it on pc screen (with actual audio).
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@js wow, that's *TurboTax*?
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@ut3usw that's fun. Are you controlling/calculating this in real time?
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@gmarcosanti buona come la focaccia ligure?
