@lontrachen I'm not interested in a laptop, I certainly won't use the Mac as a daily driver. Just need something to build and test my apps on. I guess I don't really need a ton of memory (or disk) for that. It's just that Apple building their low-cost devices for almost immediate obsolescence is just so infuriating. It's not repairable, not upgradable, and too small even today. You have to spend over $1000 to get 24GB which is...sufficient for light use, I guess? Software has gotten so huge.