We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running.
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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
-‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
-‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
-biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than
February 9, 2026) to be assured of
considerationFederal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
@briankrebs not even sure of all the fediverse accounts I have used, much less all social media. I played with dozens when Elon bought Twitter.
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@ericphelps
Tagged email addresses accomplish much the same thing!@rbos I pre-generated a thousand email addresses, registered them with my email provider, and loaded them into my password manager. They're ready to go for new accounts with a simple rename.
The whole "tagging" thing with Gmail is one of those theoretical things I know about but have never done.
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https://futurism.com/future-society/trump-adviser-larry-ellison-shadow-president
Larry Ellison's shadow presidency in action.
https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/12/larry_ellison_wants_all_data/
https://fortune.com/2025/09/28/larry-ellison-ai-surveillance-oracle-tiktok-deal-social-media/
https://blogs.oracle.com/jobsatoracle/oracle-ai-world-2025-accelerating-the-ai-age
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/09/trump-says-tiktok-should-be-tweaked-to-become-100-maga/
https://gizmodo.com/tiktok-s-latest-suitor-is-oracle-a-company-with-close-1844759645
https://www.itnews.com.au/news/former-cia-boss-joins-oracle-399524
Oracle was originally a CIA project
https://medium.com/@mostsignificant/codename-oracle-3fa5e2ccf3dbhttps://gizmodo.com/larry-ellisons-oracle-started-as-a-cia-project-1636592238
https://www.sfchronicle.com/tech/article/project-2025-oracle-19654875.php
@Npars01 @briankrebs
My reflex was Peter Thiel, but yes, amongst the bunch of them. -
@briankrebs just cancel the Olympics and the FIFA World Cup as the next step.
I will not travel to the US in 2026 just as sure as I would not recommend time travel to Germany 1936 to a jew.
Somehow the Olympics and FIFA like dictators...
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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
-‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
-‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
-biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than
February 9, 2026) to be assured of
considerationFederal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
@briankrebs
'back in the ussr' beatles -
@briankrebs In EU countries, it wouldn't be legal to give out family members' details if they didn't consent I think.
@annehargreaves @briankrebs
They (& every other country) should make an exception for Americans & apply the same rules to all American travellers... to the Rest of the World. -
We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
-‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
-‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
-biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than
February 9, 2026) to be assured of
considerationFederal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
@briankrebs So, basically, they don't want any visitors, any international witnesses or observers, for whatever they have planned for us, after they lock us all in?!?
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@briankrebs How to destroy the tourist industry very fast ... all this insanity going on unchecked it seems ... something will blow up very soon
@NicelyManifest @briankrebs Not just tourist, all industry. It's border-closing, pure and simple, and no US business is completely independent from the rest of the world. Next up: requiring permission & a passport to travel from one US state to another.
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@briankrebs The business emails sure make for a neat way to identify high value targets🙊
@schrotthaufen @briankrebs
And that is the point.
This isn't about immigration or terror threats, it is ALL about economic advantage. -
We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
-‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
-‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
-biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than
February 9, 2026) to be assured of
considerationFederal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
@briankrebs I used to go to the US most years, the last time was about 2018. Visited a senior manager who worked in a block overlooking the Whitehouse. On arriving at work each day she went to the window with middle finger up and shouted Fuck You. Colleagues were not all in agreement at the time...
I will not go again. Even if the orange despot in imprisoned, now we know a nazi revolution can happen there almost overnight. -
We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
-‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
-‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
-biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than
February 9, 2026) to be assured of
considerationFederal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
@briankrebs Who knows what malware will be embedded in the app to provide real time spying.
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@schrotthaufen @briankrebs
And that is the point.
This isn't about immigration or terror threats, it is ALL about economic advantage.@Quantillion @briankrebs Well… I’d say it is about terror threats. By the US of A towards anyone who wants to set foot on their soil.
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@oliver_schafeld
I never would have believed I might one day agree with Sepp Blatter about anything!!😮 -
@farbel Did you try to send to cbp_pra@cbp.dhs.gov? Did you get a bounce?
@briankrebs Aha. With lower case it went through. Next time I go back to the States, I imagine I will be questioned.
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@briankrebs I could not with any confidence give anyone all the emails I have used last two or three years.
@cs @briankrebs
I'll happily give them my last gmail, as, last time I looked (years ago), it was full of 999 spam mails.
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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
-‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
-‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
-biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than
February 9, 2026) to be assured of
considerationFederal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
@briankrebs A plea to the world, don't travel here. Be safe.
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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
-‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
-‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
-biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than
February 9, 2026) to be assured of
considerationFederal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
@briankrebs I assume they want to be some competition for North Korea.
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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
-‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
-‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
-biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than
February 9, 2026) to be assured of
considerationFederal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
@briankrebs Sounds like there is a strong chance this goes through, and likely they will use the illegal immigration narrative as an excuse.
Hoping common sense prevails but in these modern days there isn't much of that, no matter which party you vote for, the government continues its agenda.
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@CaptMorgan How in the world would using a burner phone help with any of this?
@mkj @briankrebs I thought the post was about installing a spy app on your phone. So if its a burner phone, its not your “real” phone. You only share information you want to share
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@briankrebs So, basically, they don't want any visitors, any international witnesses or observers, for whatever they have planned for us, after they lock us all in?!?
It seems there's _always_ something else at play, some other 'plan' underneath and behind whatever it is that's stated at face value, so this makes sense in that context.
Being in control isn't one directional, it's about every direction all at once, and when there's a built-in byproduct in some 'new rule' to guarantee even more control, they'll use it, exploit it, and look for another dozen offshoots to cement even more control.
Gli ultimi otto messaggi ricevuti dalla Federazione
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@Freddure
Safari in Kenya. Il turista vede un leone, imbraccia il fucile e spara
- porca... cilecca!
La guida:
- no capo, leone no ci lecca, ci mangia!
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È in cerca di finanziamenti e siccome i ricchi in America sono tutti repubblicani...
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Going on an international trip. I am downloading all the case law I can find about AI and copyright law so I can give the most informed take I can about "how does generative AI affect FOSS projects going forward?"
I'm going to focus on US case law first, including reading the recent high profile case that the US Supreme Court declined, but also the US Copyright Office's current analysis.
This is important, I think, because right now FOSS projects are moving fast to incorporate, but without anyone really knowing what the outcome will be, there's a great chance that, even on licensing grounds alone, we could be creating a huge mess for FOSS projects.
And (unfortunately?) my background in having done FOSS licensing stuff previously as part of my dayjob might mean I can do a pretty good job summarizing. Let's see!
If you have case law you think I should read, put it in this thread.
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@quephird I also thought this was the original meaning of the term XD
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Clearly I need to spend less time on the Internet and more in the library…
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Directional horror
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@quephird words can have multiple meanings
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I dunno… por qué no los dos???
