YES!

[garretpolk@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@coreysnipes @Em0nM4stodon Holy shit. 7-Eleven, Inc.

[werringworlds@merveilles.town]

@solonovamax @Em0nM4stodon 😮‍💨Wow... I'd say I'm surprised but it just seemed inevitable...

[solonovamax@tech.lgbt]

@werringworlds @Em0nM4stodon https://tech.lgbt/@solonovamax/116128249113105750

[lukefromdc@kolektiva.social]

@solonovamax @nazokiyoubinbou @Em0nM4stodon Of course, if Discord loses all their userbase like Myspace did, that will warn other platforms not to try this. They try again in six months and get finished off, this will be a very powerful lesson,

Punish one, instruct a hundred.

This outcome would warn commerical platforms that their business model is finished if they do age verification, and since there will be nothing to pay server bills they may as well shut down instead.

That in turn will force them to fight, and put an end to this just like the defeat of SOPA.

[lukefromdc@kolektiva.social]

@coreysnipes @garretpolk @Em0nM4stodon So far that shit at Speedway is presumably for cigarettes, lottery, and yes, alcohol sold at gas stations in some states.

If one chain expands it to cash purchases of gasoline, their competitors will clean up. There is no push for a law to require showing a drivers license to buy gasoline, possibly because it is also used in things like gas mowers.

[overtondoors@infosec.exchange]

@drikanis @Em0nM4stodon The fact remains that compliance in advance is still compliance in advance.

[theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.social]

@SwiftVoltas @Em0nM4stodon It's more than an uphill battle. The UX in all matrix clients is basically a non-starter for anyone I know IRL. Element especially, but that's the only one with calls. The UI is cluttered with data the average user doesn't understand, and it's surprisingly easy to break things.

I don't think it's a battle I'm capable of winning until the UX improves significantly. The security doesn't even factor in for people I know IRL. I just have to accept what they will tolerate.

[theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.social]

@phillip @Em0nM4stodon been there. Keep up the good fight.

I can't even get the people I know IRL to understand that having their ID leak via a contractor data breach onto the open web (which already happened!) would increase their risk of identity theft. Let alone whatever else these companies may do with the data.

Nor can I seem to make them understand their refusal to care about their privacy reduces my ability to protect my own identity online.

[phillip@social.lol]

@theeclecticdyslexic @Em0nM4stodon it’s so frustrating! Especially when they’re in the bell curve of knowing enough to think they know everything

[theeclecticdyslexic@mstdn.social]

@phillip @Em0nM4stodon I know one person in particular that is stuck in an endless ideological trap of "all technology is neutral, it will be fine".

The amount of screaming I want to do...

[bekopharm@indieweb.social]

@micdan @Em0nM4stodon yeah this. With some bells and whistles, of course. They currently make it about the verification company not about the verification itself. That'll become a Blue is the new Red situation.

Ah well, I'm out 🤘