Learn to self host now.
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@vkc if you dont know or dont want to bother with manually setting up nextcloud, or other things, it seems like https://yunohost.org helps with easily setting up a server and installing various services in it. just in case someone finds it interesting.
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Learn to self host now. While you still can.
@vkc My Synology NAS is starting to buckle under the weight of all these containers
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Learn to self host now. While you still can.
@vkc YES, and may the network remain free enough to let us have it be useful enough for it to matter.
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Hi @Meznor !
@elena 's guide will be invaluable if you are looking for a step-by-step installation guide: https://blog.elenarossini.com/a-newbies-guide-to-self-hosting-with-yunohost-part-1-reasons-requirements/
Happy self-hosting!
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Learn to self host now. While you still can.
@vkc I'm trying to self-host almost every service that allows self-hosting. It's not really hard, it just takes time to learn how to set up and maintain the servers (also, good hardware helps a lot with performance). I usually self-host with @nextcloud.
I'm thinking about hosting my own Mastodon instance now, but I need to upgrade my RAM because I already have a lot of servers running on my machine.
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Learn to self host now. While you still can.
@vkc For the (probably sizable) portion of users who will never, ever self-host, for a variety of reasons, what are the best ways to organize around and support self-hosted content with others?
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Learn to self host now. While you still can.
Last year I had a much more elaborate self hosting setup before I upgraded my desktop and culled everything I didn't actually use.
Most notable was a printed page describing how to recover the system if it needed to be reimaged (or at least the steps you need until you can mount the backup and get to the more comprehensive playbook on the device).
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@vkc For the (probably sizable) portion of users who will never, ever self-host, for a variety of reasons, what are the best ways to organize around and support self-hosted content with others?
@yoshemitzu computer clubs can be amazing. There's almost certainly someone nearby who is not only self hosting, but wants to help others do the same (or share resources about it). Finding or starting a computer club/Linux club/etc is probably the best way to go.
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Learn to self host now. While you still can.
@vkc I manage a selfhosted server for over 10 years and also have the hardware at home. Anyway i always considered VPS a way of selfhosting, but over the years i changed my mind and consider that physically owning the hardware makes a big difference. Maybe there should be a different term that includes VPS hosting, because technically if you move away from say, google docs and setup a nextcloud server in which you control the server... you are selfhosting but also renting the hardware... if you have both things, the software and hardware under your control, it is also selfhosting but it is different from a VPS. Cannot be both the same thing, we need a term to clarify the ownership of the hardware because this matters, you are more independent or soverign about the hosting itself.
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@Meznor dozens of them, but it depends on what you want to self host.
For a lot of things, Nextcloud is a reasonable place to start, and their docs are pretty good. The community snap for Ubuntu, in particular, is very easy if you're new and just trying to get your feet wet.
https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/latest/admin_manual/installation/source_installation.html
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@vkc I manage a selfhosted server for over 10 years and also have the hardware at home. Anyway i always considered VPS a way of selfhosting, but over the years i changed my mind and consider that physically owning the hardware makes a big difference. Maybe there should be a different term that includes VPS hosting, because technically if you move away from say, google docs and setup a nextcloud server in which you control the server... you are selfhosting but also renting the hardware... if you have both things, the software and hardware under your control, it is also selfhosting but it is different from a VPS. Cannot be both the same thing, we need a term to clarify the ownership of the hardware because this matters, you are more independent or soverign about the hosting itself.
@vkc if PCs computing power are ment to be rented (you would not have an actual PC at home) i assume that yeu are talking about selfhosting and owning the hardware too. Interesting times ahead.
Edit: To add this https://hachyderm.io/@pheonix/115899759634576914
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@redliria@neopaquita.es @vkc@linuxmom.net there is also https://cosmos-cloud.io/
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Learn to self host now. While you still can.
@vkc I've got my own gitlab server running on my old PC. I want to put more services on it like a drive and mail. However that PC is running on an 8 core CPU(one of which is broken and doesn't work). I need to upgrade it.
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Hi @Meznor !
@elena 's guide will be invaluable if you are looking for a step-by-step installation guide: https://blog.elenarossini.com/a-newbies-guide-to-self-hosting-with-yunohost-part-1-reasons-requirements/
Happy self-hosting!
@yunohost awww thank you for the great compliment
❤️ - delighted to hear you are recommending my guides.And hello @Meznor ! I've been writing a blog series about how to self-host from the POV of a total newbie (that was me a year ago).
Part 1 is tech requirements: https://blog.elenarossini.com/a-newbies-guide-to-self-hosting-with-yunohost-part-1-reasons-requirements/
Part 2 is a step-by-step installation guide for the YunoHost system: https://blog.elenarossini.com/a-newbies-guide-to-self-hosting-with-yunohost-part-2-installation-setup/
and part 3 - coming tomorrow! - will show how to install an app. I'll be showcasing #NextCloud.
Feel free to reach out if you have any questions
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Learn to self host now. While you still can.
@vkc been meaning to get further into:
https://coolify.io/ -
@vkc any good guides to recommend to newbies?
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@daria Reasonable folks could have different opinions on this, but I consider self-hosting to be "I administer the server and manage the software", and I'm willing to include "someone else manages the hardware" as part of that.
So, IMO a VPS counts. But I'd consider whether that's necessary or if you can get away with running your stuff on an old PC should the need arise.
@vkc I thought about that, but I'd still consider hiding my public IP somehow when running my server from a PC in my home - maybe it's irrational fear of exposing the network though.
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@daria @vkc I would recommend VPS to start. I used to run my own radio station locally and uptime and opening your local LAN to attack are the main issues.
I think having a lot of open source servers open to attack is a hackers playground and most people aren't needy enough to do the opsec stuff. I know I struggled with it so have VPSes now.
I mean you have to know SOME of it but there is a whole level above of extra firewalls and DMZs etc. I don't have my NAS with a Dyndns anymore cos hacking attempts went through the roof!
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@vkc I thought about that, but I'd still consider hiding my public IP somehow when running my server from a PC in my home - maybe it's irrational fear of exposing the network though.
@daria there's some good tools for that, Pangolin comes to mind- I run one on a VPS so I can share a few things with folks for testing.
Of course, keeping it behind the firewall and just using a VPN is totally fine too.
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Learn to self host now. While you still can.
@vkc My setup if it helps anyone: An RPi 5 (16GB) with a Pimoroni NVMe Duo with two, 1TB SSDs. (One SSD is reserved for my backup.) Runs Raspbian Lite. Hosts my PiHole, Jellyfin, print server with plenty of room to expand to other services. Only accessible within my home network. Total cost was ~$300.
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