Have you heard of W Social?
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@Argyle13 I think I’d also be turned off by having to show my ID card…
@hpod16 many people said the same. It is not going to be a success I am afraid
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Have you heard of W Social?
https://wsocial.eu/
Another platform branding itself as a European alternative to US big tech.
(another would be Monnett social)@hpod16 I was 😳 embarrassed to read there were a lot of Swedish people on it's board. 🇸🇪 😢
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Have you heard of W Social?
https://wsocial.eu/
Another platform branding itself as a European alternative to US big tech.
(another would be Monnett social)@hpod16 lol, I just tried this URL: https://stage.wsocial.eu
It simply IS Bluesky. There's only Bluesky posts there, but pretending to be an European alternative 🤡 Unfortunately, WSocial has got full media coverage today. But
that actually works, does not! -
@hpod16 lol, I just tried this URL: https://stage.wsocial.eu
It simply IS Bluesky. There's only Bluesky posts there, but pretending to be an European alternative 🤡 Unfortunately, WSocial has got full media coverage today. But
that actually works, does not!@hpod16 it even says "Bluesky" on the Google Search result. They apparently forgot to clean up some meta texts in their code before launching 😅
Oh, I used lilac 💜 marker 🤣
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Have you heard of W Social?
https://wsocial.eu/
Another platform branding itself as a European alternative to US big tech.
(another would be Monnett social)W feels like reinventing the wheel / cashgrab.
I'd like to see an "official" EU mastodon instance. That would provide a starting point for people as that seems to be the hardest part.
(On identifying myself by uploading stuff about myself to a service; a hard no. On walking to a police station to be identified and getting a box ticked as "identified", that would work.)
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W feels like reinventing the wheel / cashgrab.
I'd like to see an "official" EU mastodon instance. That would provide a starting point for people as that seems to be the hardest part.
(On identifying myself by uploading stuff about myself to a service; a hard no. On walking to a police station to be identified and getting a box ticked as "identified", that would work.)
@ekari I see!
Thanks for sharing your views.
I have to say I’m also not sure I’d want to give some random website my 🆔.
As for and official EU mastodon instance, you mean one for people(anyone) to join? Or for official institution pages and EU politicians? Cause the latter exists -
@ekari I see!
Thanks for sharing your views.
I have to say I’m also not sure I’d want to give some random website my 🆔.
As for and official EU mastodon instance, you mean one for people(anyone) to join? Or for official institution pages and EU politicians? Cause the latter existsFor everyone, because of marketing. "Go check out mastodon.eu*" works much better than "You know, there is this great mastodon-thing, go search for it, and then find an instance that suits you..."
It's too complicated 🙂
Once people are in and look around and realize what's what, then they'll (possibly) seek another instances. And they should, since multiple instances is sort of the whole point.
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@BrennpunktUA @hpod16 Yes, #Mastodon WANTS to be like Twitter with the limited character count. But writing treads of multiple toots in the #Fediverse is just nonsense.
The 500 limit is a parameter in the Mastodon server software only. I wish it would be an account setting. Or in the editor field: A small hook could extend the limit to the Fediverse limit (5000 ? none)
We could fork Mastodon 💭@karlos @BrennpunktUA @hpod16 it would be useful if the filter option included a size limit. I would like to be able to fold up under a warning the occasional very long post i see. Scrolling in a phone using the Mastadon app can be a little annoying when it's a wall of text im not interested in. And i often am reading from old to new so i see the end first.
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Have you heard of W Social?
https://wsocial.eu/
Another platform branding itself as a European alternative to US big tech.
(another would be Monnett social)@hpod16 I think everyone who followed Davos news has heard about this. It's ran by the same company that runs wedonthavetime.org - and this guy https://www.forbes.com/sites/ingmarrentzhog/ I think I'd rather stay with fedi than help another entrepreneur create "shareholder value", European or not.
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W feels like reinventing the wheel / cashgrab.
I'd like to see an "official" EU mastodon instance. That would provide a starting point for people as that seems to be the hardest part.
(On identifying myself by uploading stuff about myself to a service; a hard no. On walking to a police station to be identified and getting a box ticked as "identified", that would work.)
@ekari @hpod16 the EU already has a digital ID wallet program, which has local member state support in various ways. I don’t think I need some random new social media platform to invent it. What this W-social-thing is, beyond opportunistic headline grab, no one knows. https://ec.europa.eu/digital-building-blocks/sites/spaces/EUDIGITALIDENTITYWALLET/pages/694487738/EU+Digital+Identity+Wallet+Home
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@dalcacer funded by who though?
Seriously asking.
Do you think that public institutions should get involved in funding social media platforms as a service? Would you want your tax-euros to go to that?@hpod16 @dalcacer
imho no tax money needed for the fediverse. But support is very much needed. Support by presence (like yours), by taking it serious, by publicity.
It would be a slap in the face, though, if the EU would fund projects like W with money. The linked article https://bingx.com/en/news/post/eu-backs-million-launch-of-w-to-rival-x-beta-slated-by-february to me sounds as if the EU indeed is funding it: "European Union institutions and allied policymakers are supporting a €500 million initiative to launch W" -
@hpod16 @dalcacer
imho no tax money needed for the fediverse. But support is very much needed. Support by presence (like yours), by taking it serious, by publicity.
It would be a slap in the face, though, if the EU would fund projects like W with money. The linked article https://bingx.com/en/news/post/eu-backs-million-launch-of-w-to-rival-x-beta-slated-by-february to me sounds as if the EU indeed is funding it: "European Union institutions and allied policymakers are supporting a €500 million initiative to launch W" -
@ekari @hpod16 the EU already has a digital ID wallet program, which has local member state support in various ways. I don’t think I need some random new social media platform to invent it. What this W-social-thing is, beyond opportunistic headline grab, no one knows. https://ec.europa.eu/digital-building-blocks/sites/spaces/EUDIGITALIDENTITYWALLET/pages/694487738/EU+Digital+Identity+Wallet+Home
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@dalcacer funded by who though?
Seriously asking.
Do you think that public institutions should get involved in funding social media platforms as a service? Would you want your tax-euros to go to that? -
@karlos @BrennpunktUA @hpod16 it would be useful if the filter option included a size limit. I would like to be able to fold up under a warning the occasional very long post i see. Scrolling in a phone using the Mastadon app can be a little annoying when it's a wall of text im not interested in. And i often am reading from old to new so i see the end first.
@jetsoft @karlos @BrennpunktUA
I agree the phone app is a little... clunky.
I much prefer using Mastodon on my laptop.
Luckily that's my job and being logged in on social media 8 hours a day is already what I do. 💜 -
For everyone, because of marketing. "Go check out mastodon.eu*" works much better than "You know, there is this great mastodon-thing, go search for it, and then find an instance that suits you..."
It's too complicated 🙂
Once people are in and look around and realize what's what, then they'll (possibly) seek another instances. And they should, since multiple instances is sort of the whole point.
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@ekari
It's that first step that is tricky. Finding the instance that suits you before you've had a chance to explore the platform.
That said, migrating instances isn't impossible, I just think that initial step overwhelms people. It did, me, the first time I tried MD years ago.
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@hpod16 yes I have heard of it, but not joining because we have, for starters, several European instances of Mastodon, which is European in origin. Also, I am not showing my ID card or whatever gives my identity to use it. Not very fortunate that take.
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@hpod16 @ekari Yeah. In Sweden we have "de-facto" digital ID (BankID) which started as digital identification for bank transactions, but is these days used in all government/municipal e-services, picking up packages and booking a time at hairdresser. Most of these are services where identifying yourself is necessary/beneficial - and so far the Internet and Social Media hasn't fallen into that category, and there's a lot of friction (rightly so) with identification online.
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@hpod16 @ekari Yeah. In Sweden we have "de-facto" digital ID (BankID) which started as digital identification for bank transactions, but is these days used in all government/municipal e-services, picking up packages and booking a time at hairdresser. Most of these are services where identifying yourself is necessary/beneficial - and so far the Internet and Social Media hasn't fallen into that category, and there's a lot of friction (rightly so) with identification online.