I think I'd like to try LibreWolf.

[afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@kris_of_pnictogen why?

[starkrg@myside-yourside.net]

@afreytes If you're just trying it, go for the flatpack. Once you know you like it, you can put in the effort to work out a better install method.

[jubei@fedi.deemos.club]

@afreytes I have been on Waterfox for a while now. I'm glad I made the switch.

[kris_of_pnictogen@meow.social]

@afreytes partly silly irrational reasons (liking the name better and the fact that it retains the 'fox' connection) and partly because out of the box, Librewolf is rather aggressive about deleting all state information (e.g. cookies) between sessions

[afreytes@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@kris_of_pnictogen ohhh wait a second... I did try LibreWolf!

Your post made me remember the thing with aggressive security! Yes I hated that stuff!

[juanejot@beige.party]

@afreytes Disclaimer: I have not tried this method, but

https://librewolf.net/installation/debian/

[darkathena@beige.party]

@afreytes Obligatory: I use @Waterfox and really like it. It’s been my daily driver for almost a year now and I’d never go back.

[juanejot@beige.party]

Re-read: it looks on https://www.waterfox.com/releases/6.6.7/ like the developer has verified the Flatpak, so that should be safe for testing. I don’t see a good way to install it via apt though… yet.
The closest the developer seems to currently get is GitHub CLI (the `gh` command), which I’m personally not into investigating. But you might find you like it that way. 🤷

[juanejot@beige.party]

@afreytes UPDATE: I *have* now tried LibreWolf's official install instructions onto Debian bases, and it worked flawlessly on QEMU installs of both Linux Mint 22.3 beta & LMDE 7.

Regarding Waterfox instead, you do you. On AOSP, Waterfox is as close to un-en-💩-ified Firefox as I can find or personally stand, though DuckDuckGo Browser can be a close second for some things. I personally wish LibreWolf were available on more platforms (Android/AOSP, iOS, wasn't about to lose developer signing on macOS because Apple 🙄).

But yes, LibreWolf can certainly seem a little inflexible/scorched earth when you first start with it, and if you have to tweak it to give it the flexibility you want, isn't that kinda removing its security?

Yes and no, but I totally get not wanting to get into the fray of tweaking LibreWolf to work exactly as you want and yet worrying therefore about security and/or it maybe not looking then quite like you want it to; Waterfox is pretty good and is definitely configurable enough (they all are, but how gets into the weeds).

I personally don't love the redirect from waterfox.net to waterfox.com (dunno whether that means they mean to run it more as a company than any other sort of open-source project). I also don't love that the only command line way to install it is by leaving not just the `git` command, but Microslop-farmed GitHub's own `gh` command, installed on your system. But at least functionally, WaterFox is (and DuckDuckGo Browser, and LibreWolf are) *so* much better than what Mozilla's been churning out, lo these many versions/CEOs.

[lynx@ohai.social]

@afreytes I actually use Librewolf on my work laptop; I just turn off some of the more aggressive features.

Then again, I daily drive qutebrowser on my desktop, so... I'm definitely not a normal user.