A few years ago, through luck and vibes, I managed to produce this blue colored bean variety.

[thebiologistisn@redwombat.social]

As I puzzled over how to identify such a transcription factor gene, I found myself rereading the 2022 paper that identified the location of the V/F3'5'H gene. (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35432409/)

In that paper, as an aside, they mention finding a 2nd copy of F3'H adjacent to the F3'5'H gene, with both resting within a heterochromatic region around the centromere. Such regions show dramatically reduced crossovers, thus recombination.

[thebiologistisn@redwombat.social]

It looks like that 2022 paper likely found my "R" gene, even though that is in no way what they were looking for!

Ideally, I would now send off some tissue samples for targeted sequencing of the putative "R" gene in my blue (as well as red and yellow) beans.

[thebiologistisn@redwombat.social]

This would be needed to confirm my blue lines have a broken F3'H, and my red lines have a broken F3'5H. A funded lab would then engineer these broken versions of the genes into a purple bean to confirm each pathway being broken separately.

I don't have a funded lab.

[thebiologistisn@redwombat.social]

I may still slowly move towards getting these final steps completed, but already, I have a pretty good answer to the question that started this all.

I know that many of you have been following this story over the last years. You don't have to worry, I will continue posting bean content.

I'm just feeling quite pleased with coming to a solid biological answer for this, admittedly quixotic, quest of mine.

[thebiologistisn@redwombat.social]

Next steps?

I still really want to make blue versions of lima beans, runner beans, and whatever else I can manage.

Because limas have the least brown pigments, I expect a blue in that species will be the most clear and bright blue that is possible. I really want to see that.

[thebiologistisn@redwombat.social]

With the runner bean project, I may take a different direction to get there.

The two species are very closely related. Their genomes have largely the same order of genes.

I already made one cross between my blue common beans and a purple runner bean with black speckles.

The result is that F1 hybrids are easily made by transferring runner bean pollen to the common bean flower, but not the other direction.

Thus, I can use such hybrids to introgress the blue seed trait into runner beans!

[thebiologistisn@redwombat.social]

The ideal cross would be between my blue bush beans and the "white" seeded runner beans I found in the F2 population I described above.

I use quotation marks because the seeds aren't actually white.

Instead, they're a pale brown color caused by the oxidation of colorless flavonoids into brown tannins.

The result of this cross will produce blue seeds, and some of them will look almost 100% like runner beans.

[thebiologistisn@redwombat.social]

This lets me short-circuit my blue runner bean project.

I can grow all these together in 2026 to advance three goals.
* "white" runner beans.
* blue common beans.
* magenta lima beans.
* yellow lima beans.

[thebiologistisn@redwombat.social]

This will increase the "white" runner beans while possibly producing the common-x-runner bean hybrid I need.

The lima beans will have more trellis area than I've grown before, increasing the odds of finding or producing a hybrid between them.

[thebiologistisn@redwombat.social]

I'm also using the knowledge I've gained to make blue carrots.

I've been looking into making blue daylilies, too.

Some plants, like roses and squash, don't naturally include the critical F3'5'H enzyme needed to make blue anthocyanins, but I keep thinking about these, too.

[thebiologistisn@redwombat.social]

In the meantime, I'm going to try and produce a set of locally adapted varieties of colorful runner beans. These will increase the genetic diversity of the species available locally.

(The dark blues here darkened towards black when dry.)