Fuck, I have to change my opinion on leaf blowers.
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@kirakira Yeah, could be, but the point stands because that's what happened in Portland.
@wackJackle I don't think you're getting why people are upset about this. I believed you. I believed the picture. Now I'm skeptical about leaf blower's abilities to resist tear gas - it's an AI picture after all, might as well be a unicorn.
you say "well it really happened in Portland, so it don't matter" - well, share an actual documented case then!
until you do, you're doing a disservice to resistance.
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@wackJackle @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma You are determined to justify your dishonesty. So be it.
@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma Thank you for not answering any of my questions/arguments. Your moral sentiment is worthless to me but I really apreciate that you had to give it to me.
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@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma Thank you for not answering any of my questions/arguments. Your moral sentiment is worthless to me but I really apreciate that you had to give it to me.
@wackJackle
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@wackJackle I don't think you're getting why people are upset about this. I believed you. I believed the picture. Now I'm skeptical about leaf blower's abilities to resist tear gas - it's an AI picture after all, might as well be a unicorn.
you say "well it really happened in Portland, so it don't matter" - well, share an actual documented case then!
until you do, you're doing a disservice to resistance.
@timon There is a video of it happening in this thread. I commented many times on it already.
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Fuck, I have to change my opinion on leaf blowers.
wow that's a great way to get shot
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@wackJackle
@Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma It’s unfortunate you cannot even choose to respond maturely to disagreement.@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma You haven't made any 'maturely' comment so why should I bother?
You don't like AI, that's fine. Me, too. So what?
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Fuck, I have to change my opinion on leaf blowers.
@Heliograph New evidence surfaces in the case for leaf blowers!
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@wackJackle
@Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma It’s unfortunate you cannot even choose to respond maturely to disagreement.@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma If, instead of an AI image, it had been a real drawing of someone using a leaf blower against the authorities, would you have made the same arguments?
Think about that instead of trying to accuse me of something here.
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@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma You haven't made any 'maturely' comment so why should I bother?
You don't like AI, that's fine. Me, too. So what?
@wackJackle
@Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma Yes, why should you bother to receive feedback with curiosity & mutual respect? Why indeed?You ask “So what?” Here is my response:
Sharing this image seems like an efficient way to spread the message, but it comes at the cost of your credibility. Our word is more important than ever. Don’t compromise it with mistruths, not even little teeny ones. This is not a photograph from 2020. It isn’t real. It may visually represent resistance, but that doesn’t justify promoting it as real. You are putting comrades in danger.
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@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma If, instead of an AI image, it had been a real drawing of someone using a leaf blower against the authorities, would you have made the same arguments?
Think about that instead of trying to accuse me of something here.
@wackJackle
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@wackJackle
@Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma Yes, why should you bother to receive feedback with curiosity & mutual respect? Why indeed?You ask “So what?” Here is my response:
Sharing this image seems like an efficient way to spread the message, but it comes at the cost of your credibility. Our word is more important than ever. Don’t compromise it with mistruths, not even little teeny ones. This is not a photograph from 2020. It isn’t real. It may visually represent resistance, but that doesn’t justify promoting it as real. You are putting comrades in danger.
@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma 'You are putting comrades in danger.'
I don't and it's laughable that this is your argument. And I agree that this is your only argument.
My credibilty is fine because I answered many people that the image is AI in this thread already. I didn't create it, I just made a funny comment on it and shared it.
There is a video of how to use leaf blowers in the thread for every comrade to see.
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@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma 'You are putting comrades in danger.'
I don't and it's laughable that this is your argument. And I agree that this is your only argument.
My credibilty is fine because I answered many people that the image is AI in this thread already. I didn't create it, I just made a funny comment on it and shared it.
There is a video of how to use leaf blowers in the thread for every comrade to see.
@wackJackle @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma Okie dokes. To me and many others, it hurts your credibility. Hope you’re right. Muting you now.
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@wackJackle
@Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma Yes, why should you bother to receive feedback with curiosity & mutual respect? Why indeed?You ask “So what?” Here is my response:
Sharing this image seems like an efficient way to spread the message, but it comes at the cost of your credibility. Our word is more important than ever. Don’t compromise it with mistruths, not even little teeny ones. This is not a photograph from 2020. It isn’t real. It may visually represent resistance, but that doesn’t justify promoting it as real. You are putting comrades in danger.
@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma You can't seriously believe that anyone in the world will see this post and then simply go out and use their own leaf blower. That would presuppose that all comrades are toddlers, and I refuse to accept that because I have read Hegel as well as Marx.
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@wackJackle @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma Okie dokes. To me and many others, it hurts your credibility. Hope you’re right. Muting you now.
@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma Okay, whatever.
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Fuck, I have to change my opinion on leaf blowers.
@wackJackle
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@wackJackle
@Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma It isn’t, so, not the reality we’re living in.@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma Okay, so don't think about it.
Have a nice day.
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Fuck, I have to change my opinion on leaf blowers.
@wackJackle can you edit this post to let people know the image is ai generated please? We have enough misinformation around as it is
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@wackJackle This has the potential to get someone shot. In Portland they were not so comfortable with shooting someone in the face multiple times and think they'd get away with it. Now the in new landscape they can do just that and claim anything as an offensive weapon. I am not advocating doing nothing but know the risks, which this tip doesn't show.
@byrnensorg @wackJackle they will shoot people anyway. do everything that fucks up the fascists. there will be reprisals. you have to do this anyway.
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@wackJackle can you edit this post to let people know the image is ai generated please? We have enough misinformation around as it is
@Mudlark People are able to scroll down. I've answered many times on this in this thread. There is also a video of what happened in Portland 2020.
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@wackJackle Anyone who tries this will get charged for assault by the Feds, which is why best practice is to cover or douse any smoke grenades
@doubledealer @wackJackle if no one does these things, you'll be worrying a lot more about being arrested... in your home, for having any recorded anti-fascist sympathy. assault charges are the last thing anyone needs to worry about right now. the mask is off, class war is on.