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@bassthang @mxchara But nobody has just ONE sin! Everybody has one OR MORE sins. So you actually need a vector to encode their sin, one that can accommodate both the nature of the sins and their severity separately. To compare sinfulness of the undeserving one then needs to consider homogeneous matrix transformations …
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Posit that to be judged for a sin implies that information about the sin is available to god/jesus.
Information implies entropy implies energy implies mass.
...so you can run an attack on heaven by sinmaxxing so hard Christ converts into a black hole from sheer acquired mass-energy and oneshots God by trapping him in something not even His light can escape from
god's not looking so 'almighty' now, is he?
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@Lemmus @NuclearOatmeal @cstross clearly the answer to sinmaxxing has to involve "AI" at scale, perhaps converting the entire solar system into Evil LLMs (built using Goddamn Processing Units).
I feel there's a thematic linkage here with _The Nine Billion Names of God_. It makes sense if we're in the Mirror Clarkeverse and don't realize it yet. Maybe when Rama arrives and Pete Hegseth shoots it down, matters will become more clear.
@oddhack @Lemmus @NuclearOatmeal @cstross Surface Detail anybody?
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@bassthang @cstross @mxchara can we not deduce the most likely compression system and craft pathological sin matrices to blow them up?
\[ 3 x sw, mint lube, … \]
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From bluesky:
Posit that to be judged for a sin implies that information about the sin is available to god/jesus.
Information implies entropy implies energy implies mass.
...so you can run an attack on heaven by sinmaxxing so hard Christ converts into a black hole from sheer acquired mass-energy and oneshots God by trapping him in something not even His light can escape from
@cstross ooh, so that's what Nietzsche was talking about
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@cstross It is important to commit sins that have never been attempted before, so that memoization and compression does not obviate the attack vector. If one is not audacious enough to shock God, one risks being reduced to a handful of reference pointers.
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@bassthang @mxchara But nobody has just ONE sin! Everybody has one OR MORE sins. So you actually need a vector to encode their sin, one that can accommodate both the nature of the sins and their severity separately. To compare sinfulness of the undeserving one then needs to consider homogeneous matrix transformations …
@cstross @bassthang @mxchara we should construct the eigensin vectors so we can best describe individuals. The typical eigensin will probably closely map onto a CPAC or GOP conventiongoer.
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@bassthang @mxchara But nobody has just ONE sin! Everybody has one OR MORE sins. So you actually need a vector to encode their sin, one that can accommodate both the nature of the sins and their severity separately. To compare sinfulness of the undeserving one then needs to consider homogeneous matrix transformations …
@cstross @bassthang @mxchara So we're al points of origins of sins... 3 dimensions + time of birth + time of sin and severity... Fuck it, fetch me some jesuits !
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@bassthang @mxchara But nobody has just ONE sin! Everybody has one OR MORE sins. So you actually need a vector to encode their sin, one that can accommodate both the nature of the sins and their severity separately. To compare sinfulness of the undeserving one then needs to consider homogeneous matrix transformations …
@cstross @bassthang @mxchara so we need to maximize the sin-saturation in any given simulated soul. Before termimating the simulation to deliver the sin-ergy. Can we rapidly load+terminate a sinful soul or wozld that count as reincarnating? Do we need to simulate a pure soul long enough to encounter+reject christ's teachings, then speedrun the sin accumulation?
Computation Theologists should get on this. -
@mxchara But sins are committed by sinners! Which implies more than one bit of information per sin. Indeed, there may be mitigating or modifying parameters. Every instance of a sin is unique and must be accounted for separately!
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@HighlandLawyer @cstross @mxchara Welp, there's the book title, "The Calculus of Sin"
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@cstross @bassthang @mxchara we should construct the eigensin vectors so we can best describe individuals. The typical eigensin will probably closely map onto a CPAC or GOP conventiongoer.
@cstross @bassthang @mxchara on further thinking, the notion of "Generalized Coordinates" from Classical Mechanics seems perfectly applicable to developing a mathematics of Classical Evil using Generalized Sins.
Hm, I wonder if Lev Landau is in the Good Place or the Bad Place? Whichever one, I'm sure Lifschitz is there with him else nobody else could understand anything he says.
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@HighlandLawyer @cstross @mxchara Welp, there's the book title, "The Calculus of Sin"
@FionaCraig @HighlandLawyer @cstross @mxchara Presumably the calculus of sin allows you to solve the differential equation describing the R-C circuit in the Church, and determine that it's all sin (or cos, with a phase offset).
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@FionaCraig @HighlandLawyer @cstross @mxchara Presumably the calculus of sin allows you to solve the differential equation describing the R-C circuit in the Church, and determine that it's all sin (or cos, with a phase offset).
@darkling @FionaCraig @HighlandLawyer @cstross @mxchara the longer this thread goes on, the faster the Demons build out the new Circle of Nerdpunning.
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@HighlandLawyer @cstross @mxchara Are you talking about sintent?! We need a sin algorithm to determine the level of sintent! But we all know RC sins can be extinguished with a few indulgences 😉
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@mxchara But sins are committed by sinners! Which implies more than one bit of information per sin. Indeed, there may be mitigating or modifying parameters. Every instance of a sin is unique and must be accounted for separately!
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@HighlandLawyer @cstross @mxchara Are you talking about sintent?! We need a sin algorithm to determine the level of sintent! But we all know RC sins can be extinguished with a few indulgences 😉
@alex_p_roe @HighlandLawyer @cstross @mxchara
"Forgive me Father, for I have sinned"
"You are forgiven, my son. Say a dozen Hello Worlds, and make an act of compilation."
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@HighlandLawyer @cstross @mxchara
In Reform Christianity, the religion I grew up in, the intention is the only part that is sinful.
- If I intentionally shoot you and you die, I've sinned.
- If I accidentally kill you, I haven't sinned.
- If I intentionally shoot you and miss, then I had murder in my heart and so I've sinned.
This suggests that we can run this DDOS without actually harming one another by attempting sins and foiling one another's schemes.
In order to make the sin information hard to compress, we would have to change the parameters each time we attempt a sin. Adding some arbitrary bullshit like costumes, unusual locations, things of that nature.
We'd have to be Batman villains, basically.
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@bassthang @cstross @mxchara can we not deduce the most likely compression system and craft pathological sin matrices to blow them up?
\[ 3 x sw, mint lube, … \]
@Colman @bassthang @cstross @mxchara I suspect that particular problem space has been thoroughly mapped. (See also Suzy Izzard on original sin: "Heard it!")
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From bluesky:
Posit that to be judged for a sin implies that information about the sin is available to god/jesus.
Information implies entropy implies energy implies mass.
...so you can run an attack on heaven by sinmaxxing so hard Christ converts into a black hole from sheer acquired mass-energy and oneshots God by trapping him in something not even His light can escape from
@cstross As a Jewish-raised Pagan, uh, what the fuck is a "sin"
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