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  • Why do schools have dances? Why do many high schools host parties, sometimes inter-school parties at the school?

    A school isn't just a machine that puts knowledge into people's brains, it's an organization of people. And those people will want to celebrate together from time to time. This WILL happen. "official" events can be more inclusive.

    But also for young people it's a part of social education, providing some baseline for how you interact with other people.

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  • Why do schools have dances? Why do many high schools host parties, sometimes inter-school parties at the school?

    A school isn't just a machine that puts knowledge into people's brains, it's an organization of people. And those people will want to celebrate together from time to time. This WILL happen. "official" events can be more inclusive.

    But also for young people it's a part of social education, providing some baseline for how you interact with other people.

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    Schools dances, office holiday parties can be kind of corny and boring. So many people have input on what can and cannot be done that you might end up with a very limited and boring event.

    But, these things are still very important (the office parties less so, I think)-- they have an "educational purpose"

    And this is why schools need to come to grips with running social media intranets.

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  • Schools dances, office holiday parties can be kind of corny and boring. So many people have input on what can and cannot be done that you might end up with a very limited and boring event.

    But, these things are still very important (the office parties less so, I think)-- they have an "educational purpose"

    And this is why schools need to come to grips with running social media intranets.

    2/

    Right now teens go off into the wild to find a place on social media and adults are rightly alarmed. Companies like Facebook, Instagram, X etc. have no interest in "modeling a healthy online environment" or "teaching young people to use social media constructively" -- instead everyone is acting like simply banning kids from using phones and scanning IDs will make social media go away.

    No one is asking or answering the question: How and when will young people learn to use social media?

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  • Right now teens go off into the wild to find a place on social media and adults are rightly alarmed. Companies like Facebook, Instagram, X etc. have no interest in "modeling a healthy online environment" or "teaching young people to use social media constructively" -- instead everyone is acting like simply banning kids from using phones and scanning IDs will make social media go away.

    No one is asking or answering the question: How and when will young people learn to use social media?

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    I think that schools should take on this role.

    You could have a server for a school with mastodon, but not connected to the rest of the fedi, you could network with similar schools. Just like at the school dance the teachers are around so there are limits to how it's used.

    Teens could post about their soccer games, advertise their clubs, make jokes, practice using the medium wisely.

    When teens post to social media they care about their friends at school seeing the post most. 4/

  • I think that schools should take on this role.

    You could have a server for a school with mastodon, but not connected to the rest of the fedi, you could network with similar schools. Just like at the school dance the teachers are around so there are limits to how it's used.

    Teens could post about their soccer games, advertise their clubs, make jokes, practice using the medium wisely.

    When teens post to social media they care about their friends at school seeing the post most. 4/

    I've had people hear this idea scoff saying "teens will never use it" I don't think this is true. They ALL come to the dances, even though they are "so boring" -- and I think at some level they would feel better having a safer place to express themselves in photos, videos and writing for each other without every creep on the internet looking in on it.

    Will some teens still find internet "after parties" Yes.

    But right now we are basically saying you can go to the afterparty or NOTHING.

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  • I've had people hear this idea scoff saying "teens will never use it" I don't think this is true. They ALL come to the dances, even though they are "so boring" -- and I think at some level they would feel better having a safer place to express themselves in photos, videos and writing for each other without every creep on the internet looking in on it.

    Will some teens still find internet "after parties" Yes.

    But right now we are basically saying you can go to the afterparty or NOTHING.

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    What is more true is the adults don't want to bother to set it up.

    Just like no one really wants to chaperone the dance.

    But we have figured out that NOT having the dance is worse.

    It will leave some kids locked out socially, others will create events that are too adult or unsafe.

    We need to show them how it could work. Part of the obstacle to doing this is how few *adults* know how to use social media in a constructive way. So maybe we all need lessons.

  • What is more true is the adults don't want to bother to set it up.

    Just like no one really wants to chaperone the dance.

    But we have figured out that NOT having the dance is worse.

    It will leave some kids locked out socially, others will create events that are too adult or unsafe.

    We need to show them how it could work. Part of the obstacle to doing this is how few *adults* know how to use social media in a constructive way. So maybe we all need lessons.

    As a teacher who is always looking out for kids who struggle with "socializing" the part about being shut out really bothers me.

    When I was in HS internet was a secret world for a few dozen nerdy kids who knew about it. Now it's more like the socially savvy kids figure it out, and even manage to use it rather responsibly, but the kids who are more like I was... they have no idea what's going on or where to start and they are just left out.

    That sucks.

  • As a teacher who is always looking out for kids who struggle with "socializing" the part about being shut out really bothers me.

    When I was in HS internet was a secret world for a few dozen nerdy kids who knew about it. Now it's more like the socially savvy kids figure it out, and even manage to use it rather responsibly, but the kids who are more like I was... they have no idea what's going on or where to start and they are just left out.

    That sucks.

    I mean the "secret club for nerds" was not great either but at least it wasn't concentrating social power in the hands of the already socially skilled and powerful.

    But, that's what's going on now. Your shy socially awkward kid may at best find some kindred souls online, but at worst?

    A chatbot may fill their head with nonsense or they will get preyed on by internet creeps.

    And the later was already happening when I was young.

    A school should at least set one good example.

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