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@_elena I know it’s an floss project, but this is basically asking for free spec work, with the off chance of getting paid a little only if you win. Not many professionals will answer that call.
With their budget of 1500€, they can hire someone working fulltime for 2‑3 days maybe. The result will be much better, it’ll be an actual cooperation with proper briefing and feedback rounds, etc.
With a contest, they risk having most people just sending things they spent a couple of hours on, tops.
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@_elena Really they could either:
– Go the proper way, make a call for offers, receive portfolios/quotes and choose one designer to collaborate with.
– Go the open source way if they prefer, have people offering logos/mascots, all online, with public votes, etc.
But the midway, asking for people to do the entire work and send it to them privately for them to choose, it’s making people work for free, not an open source contribution. They wouldn’t do that for pull requests or other dev tasks?
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@_elena Really they could either:
– Go the proper way, make a call for offers, receive portfolios/quotes and choose one designer to collaborate with.
– Go the open source way if they prefer, have people offering logos/mascots, all online, with public votes, etc.
But the midway, asking for people to do the entire work and send it to them privately for them to choose, it’s making people work for free, not an open source contribution. They wouldn’t do that for pull requests or other dev tasks?
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@_elena @andycarolan It's not a nice opportunity, it's exploitation.
No matter how much you personally like the software, this is shady as fuck and they've lost all my respect.
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@_elena And if they really want to see several directions by several people (a luxury that most design clients don’t get really), they could use the budget they have for the second and third prizes to hire 2–3 people to create sketches/concepts before choosing one and pay them the first prize budget. But at least everyone gets hired fairly :)
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@_elena @andycarolan It's not a nice opportunity, it's exploitation.
No matter how much you personally like the software, this is shady as fuck and they've lost all my respect.
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@_elena @elena Varnish Software is a VC funded corporation with ~84.5M SEK annual turnover.
They can afford to hire a designer and pay them properly like they do everyone else who works for them.
https://tracxn.com/d/companies/varnish-software/__NVwsqJztiiMDMENe3Et5nTplj52XAc9ZxixiNgHcTxI
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@_elena @elena Varnish Software is a VC funded corporation with ~84.5M SEK annual turnover.
They can afford to hire a designer and pay them properly like they do everyone else who works for them.
https://tracxn.com/d/companies/varnish-software/__NVwsqJztiiMDMENe3Et5nTplj52XAc9ZxixiNgHcTxI
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@_elena Thanks Elena, oh yes, I'm 100% sure that it was well intentioned. It's totally impossible for us all to be aware of sentiment and practices within each other's industries. I'm sure I've taken missteps on occasion lol.
Thanks for the discourse, and I hope that VinylCache find what they are looking for :)
Wishing you a great day!
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@_elena Thanks Elena, oh yes, I'm 100% sure that it was well intentioned. It's totally impossible for us all to be aware of sentiment and practices within each other's industries. I'm sure I've taken missteps on occasion lol.
Thanks for the discourse, and I hope that VinylCache find what they are looking for :)
Wishing you a great day!
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@_elena You're welcome! Thanks for leaving the post in place with your edits! 🙂
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Just a side note... this is what I love about Mastodon. We can have respectful and helpful discussions with each other about this kind of thing. It's awesome!
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@_elena @andycarolan It's not a nice opportunity, it's exploitation.
No matter how much you personally like the software, this is shady as fuck and they've lost all my respect.
@woe2you @nclm @_elena @andycarolan @aral and everyone else who commented: THANK YOU
for now, i learned a lot - we need to decide what to do next.
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@woe2you @nclm @_elena @andycarolan @aral and everyone else who commented: THANK YOU
for now, i learned a lot - we need to decide what to do next.
@woe2you @_elena @andycarolan @aral @nclm
An attempt to clarify and remedy is out: https://vinyl-cache.org/organization/logo-contest.html#edit-2-clarification-of-the-vinyl-cache-logo-competition
THANK YOU again for your feedback and, in particular, those who helped us tremendously with suggestions on how to improve.
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@woe2you @_elena @andycarolan @aral @nclm
An attempt to clarify and remedy is out: https://vinyl-cache.org/organization/logo-contest.html#edit-2-clarification-of-the-vinyl-cache-logo-competition
THANK YOU again for your feedback and, in particular, those who helped us tremendously with suggestions on how to improve.
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@mcc Yes —but before.
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Confesso che questa cosa mi mette a disagio.
Il tizio era un miliardario pedofilo, la cui seconda attività principale era la creazione di una rete di contatti influenti.
A parte il garantismo, che vabbè, parliamo degli stati uniti, non mi stupisce che una persona del genere, ex amicone di Trump, abbia investito spiccioli in coinbase, o che parli con Bannon di Salvini e Le Pen, o di Gates che tradisce la moglie con signorine maggiorenni.
O che magari ci siano anche delle millanterie e non siano tutte notizie verificate.Sarebbe un po' come se avessimo a disposizione la Gmail di Tommaso Buscetta.
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@mcc I use endashes and put spaces around that semi-frequently – like this – but no spaces for emdash
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@Paradox that's the point of the game also it's boring. There are better board games
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@streetartutopia
But why isn't London showing British billionaires?
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Ferragosto con vento di mare http://adrianomaini.altervista.org/ferragosto-con-vento-di-mare/
