Anyways, a few things that I'm sure everyone here knows but that bear repeating anyways:
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Anyways, a few things that I'm sure everyone here knows but that bear repeating anyways:
1. Vaginoplasty in women who lacked a vaginal cavity is older than knee replacement surgery by a lot. The first (admittedly primitive) bowel substitution vaginoplasty is roughly contemporary with open heart surgery.
1a. Vaginoplasty in _trans_ women predates knee replacement surgery, actually.
2. It has one of the lowest regret rates of any major surgical procedure in the world. It's regret rate is almost unheard of in medicine, actually.
3. The most common gender affirming surgeries performed on teenagers are performed on teenage boys with excess breast tissue. There also aren't that many of them even including that group.
4. The reason you don't "let them decide after they turn 18" (as opposed to letting them decide when they reach puberty) is a) that doesn't change the outcome b) puberty does permanent damage and c) causes pretty horrific trauma.
5. If you are a guy and think trans women have an advantage in elite sports I encourage you to try hormones for two years and then see how well you get along with jars.
@hrefna I had no idea about the age of the technique (had never checked), that’s kinda fascinating!
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@hrefna I had no idea about the age of the technique (had never checked), that’s kinda fascinating!
@froztbyte Oh yeah! It's really cool.
We mostly talk about it as starting with Gohrbandt and Dora Richter in Germany (and fair enough), but the truth is that is when it started in _trans_ women and marked the development of the modern techniques. The actual functional work, including the work that Gohrbandt was building on top of, is much older in trying to treat vaginal agenesis.
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@froztbyte Oh yeah! It's really cool.
We mostly talk about it as starting with Gohrbandt and Dora Richter in Germany (and fair enough), but the truth is that is when it started in _trans_ women and marked the development of the modern techniques. The actual functional work, including the work that Gohrbandt was building on top of, is much older in trying to treat vaginal agenesis.
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@froztbyte Oh yeah! It's really cool.
We mostly talk about it as starting with Gohrbandt and Dora Richter in Germany (and fair enough), but the truth is that is when it started in _trans_ women and marked the development of the modern techniques. The actual functional work, including the work that Gohrbandt was building on top of, is much older in trying to treat vaginal agenesis.
@hrefna Not an area I study but also one I’d passively been learning things about over the years, and I wonder how I never ran into this.. I guess yet another case of there’s still a hell of a lot of stuff pushed into the margins across the many years of trans erasure?
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@hrefna Not an area I study but also one I’d passively been learning things about over the years, and I wonder how I never ran into this.. I guess yet another case of there’s still a hell of a lot of stuff pushed into the margins across the many years of trans erasure?
@hrefna Still, thanks for mentioning it, and the other toot link! Now my knowledge is improved :D
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Anyways, a few things that I'm sure everyone here knows but that bear repeating anyways:
1. Vaginoplasty in women who lacked a vaginal cavity is older than knee replacement surgery by a lot. The first (admittedly primitive) bowel substitution vaginoplasty is roughly contemporary with open heart surgery.
1a. Vaginoplasty in _trans_ women predates knee replacement surgery, actually.
2. It has one of the lowest regret rates of any major surgical procedure in the world. It's regret rate is almost unheard of in medicine, actually.
3. The most common gender affirming surgeries performed on teenagers are performed on teenage boys with excess breast tissue. There also aren't that many of them even including that group.
4. The reason you don't "let them decide after they turn 18" (as opposed to letting them decide when they reach puberty) is a) that doesn't change the outcome b) puberty does permanent damage and c) causes pretty horrific trauma.
5. If you are a guy and think trans women have an advantage in elite sports I encourage you to try hormones for two years and then see how well you get along with jars.
@hrefna I used to be able to do multiple chin-ups. Now I crumble during the down part of a single pushup.
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@hrefna Not an area I study but also one I’d passively been learning things about over the years, and I wonder how I never ran into this.. I guess yet another case of there’s still a hell of a lot of stuff pushed into the margins across the many years of trans erasure?
@froztbyte @hrefna or just women erasure, honestly
how many surgeons do you see? are they women? any of em? -
@froztbyte @hrefna or just women erasure, honestly
how many surgeons do you see? are they women? any of em? -
@hrefna @froztbyte 👍 👍 👍 👌 👌 👌
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Anyways, a few things that I'm sure everyone here knows but that bear repeating anyways:
1. Vaginoplasty in women who lacked a vaginal cavity is older than knee replacement surgery by a lot. The first (admittedly primitive) bowel substitution vaginoplasty is roughly contemporary with open heart surgery.
1a. Vaginoplasty in _trans_ women predates knee replacement surgery, actually.
2. It has one of the lowest regret rates of any major surgical procedure in the world. It's regret rate is almost unheard of in medicine, actually.
3. The most common gender affirming surgeries performed on teenagers are performed on teenage boys with excess breast tissue. There also aren't that many of them even including that group.
4. The reason you don't "let them decide after they turn 18" (as opposed to letting them decide when they reach puberty) is a) that doesn't change the outcome b) puberty does permanent damage and c) causes pretty horrific trauma.
5. If you are a guy and think trans women have an advantage in elite sports I encourage you to try hormones for two years and then see how well you get along with jars.
> see how well you get along with jars
I know this is a serious post on a serious topic, but I laughed at this, it's brilliant.
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