Whoa. UTF-8 is older now than ASCII was when UTF-8 was invented.
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Whoa. UTF-8 is older now than ASCII was when UTF-8 was invented.
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Whoa. UTF-8 is older now than ASCII was when UTF-8 was invented.
@tek and yet slashdot still can't display it.
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Whoa. UTF-8 is older now than ASCII was when UTF-8 was invented.
@tek and it still sucks
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Whoa. UTF-8 is older now than ASCII was when UTF-8 was invented.
@tek This is the most Mastodon post ever.
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@tek and it still sucks
@vathpela Awww, I like UTF-8! I can pretend it's ASCII most of the time.
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@vathpela Awww, I like UTF-8! I can pretend it's ASCII most of the time.
@tek I have complaints about recoverability on a mildly corrupted bitstream, but it's much too late in the evening to articulate this well.
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@tek I have complaints about recoverability on a mildly corrupted bitstream, but it's much too late in the evening to articulate this well.
@tek (don't get me wrong, I have to use UCS-2 often enough to know real pain...)
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@tek I have complaints about recoverability on a mildly corrupted bitstream, but it's much too late in the evening to articulate this well.
@vathpela @tek Given how much worse the alternatives are, and how impossible it would have been to get people to move off of encodings, I'm glad UTF-8 exists.
Don't take me wrong, I'm quite aware of the issues with UTF-8, but I (choose to) believe that if it wasn't for UTF-8 we'd still be drowning in ASCII, and it would be impossible to tell the English-only speaking minority that supporting letters other than what was used to write inscriptions in ancient Rome might actually be useful.
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@vathpela @tek Given how much worse the alternatives are, and how impossible it would have been to get people to move off of encodings, I'm glad UTF-8 exists.
Don't take me wrong, I'm quite aware of the issues with UTF-8, but I (choose to) believe that if it wasn't for UTF-8 we'd still be drowning in ASCII, and it would be impossible to tell the English-only speaking minority that supporting letters other than what was used to write inscriptions in ancient Rome might actually be useful.
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@tek I have complaints about recoverability on a mildly corrupted bitstream, but it's much too late in the evening to articulate this well.
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@tek I have complaints about recoverability on a mildly corrupted bitstream, but it's much too late in the evening to articulate this well.
@vathpela IMHO, redundancy and/or checksums should be implemented on different layer, not in text encoding
Like, there's many, many ways to keep bits from corrupting, which are applicable in different cases
And forcing one particular inside of text encoding itself is...mehSame for compression btw. For some texts (CJK in particular) UTF-8 is sub-optimal, but even basic deflate makes it compact enough
TL;DR: UTF-8 is not perfect, but having one encoding for every text outweighs
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@vathpela IMHO, redundancy and/or checksums should be implemented on different layer, not in text encoding
Like, there's many, many ways to keep bits from corrupting, which are applicable in different cases
And forcing one particular inside of text encoding itself is...mehSame for compression btw. For some texts (CJK in particular) UTF-8 is sub-optimal, but even basic deflate makes it compact enough
TL;DR: UTF-8 is not perfect, but having one encoding for every text outweighs
@mo @vathpela Also, UTF-8 is trivially easy to synchronize. If you delete a byte out of the middle of a file, at most you’ll lost the one affected character (well, code point). The ones before and after it will be fine. That’s not true of some other Unicode encodings, like double width ones where everything after would be out of sync.
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Whoa. UTF-8 is older now than ASCII was when UTF-8 was invented.
@tek Still I am regularly confronted with IT systems that do not (properly) support it and display my name with an umlaut wrong.
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Whoa. UTF-8 is older now than ASCII was when UTF-8 was invented.
@tek and it is still being handled wrongly in many places
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@mo @vathpela Also, UTF-8 is trivially easy to synchronize. If you delete a byte out of the middle of a file, at most you’ll lost the one affected character (well, code point). The ones before and after it will be fine. That’s not true of some other Unicode encodings, like double width ones where everything after would be out of sync.
@tek This! UTF-8 is a great encoding. Unicode can be a mess at times though. :)
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Whoa. UTF-8 is older now than ASCII was when UTF-8 was invented.
@tek But UTF-EBCDIC is still younger than EBCDIC was when UTF-EBCDIC was invented.
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@tek and it still sucks
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Whoa. UTF-8 is older now than ASCII was when UTF-8 was invented.
@tek Every now and then the Cambridge CST exam papers include a question like "explain why even experienced programmers sometimes have problems with character codes".
You could write pretty well anything you liked.
Originally what was expected was an essay about things like escape sequences on Flexowriter tapes; in my day it was about conversion between EBCDIC and ASCII; these days it might be about obscure characters in URLs.
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@vathpela IMHO, redundancy and/or checksums should be implemented on different layer, not in text encoding
Like, there's many, many ways to keep bits from corrupting, which are applicable in different cases
And forcing one particular inside of text encoding itself is...mehSame for compression btw. For some texts (CJK in particular) UTF-8 is sub-optimal, but even basic deflate makes it compact enough
TL;DR: UTF-8 is not perfect, but having one encoding for every text outweighs
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The question is not if, it's when. I am dead serious that we will have never seen a cybersecurity incident like this before, because it can self-mutate at a pace much faster than random mutation in physical viruses.
Workshopped a phrase for it a bit with @quintessence last night: "evolution through artificially intelligent design" of malicious behaviors.
The only solution I can think of once this happens is to shut down network access, particularly to AI service providers, and roll back to software distros based on software that came out a year older and patch our way back up against known CVEs while we try to sort everything out.
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The interesting thing about the AI worm being imminent thing is this is the first time where I have said something about AI where most of the well-informed sides of anti-ai and pro-ai friends I have both fully agree with me. If you are paying attention enough, you can see that all the pieces are falling in place.
In fact, the biggest debate is whether this has happened already, and we just haven't seen proof of it yet. I don't know. Given how long things like the xz attack have sat undetected, and given how much chaos of computation is happening in datacenter usage right now, I wouldn't doubt it.
