Made a graph of the "wider" fediverse - is this correct?
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Been reading some docs and felt like drawing to get a better picture.
Some things to note:
- Parenthesis indicate bridges
- Fed Bridgy and Mostr appear twice because I don't know if they allow cross-communication
- One-way arrows (→) indicate one-way communication, and two-ways arrows (⇄) indicate the two sides can talk with each other
- Threads to/from Facebook and Instagram communication appears with an interrogation mark because the information I could find didn't feel conclusive and I don't have an account to test myself
- Maybe I missed some bridges and protocols, but that'd be more of a lack of knowing; also intentionally ignored X/Twitter > Nitter > RSS > ActicityPub bridges because it felt too much of a stretch.
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Been reading some docs and felt like drawing to get a better picture.
Some things to note:
- Parenthesis indicate bridges
- Fed Bridgy and Mostr appear twice because I don't know if they allow cross-communication
- One-way arrows (→) indicate one-way communication, and two-ways arrows (⇄) indicate the two sides can talk with each other
- Threads to/from Facebook and Instagram communication appears with an interrogation mark because the information I could find didn't feel conclusive and I don't have an account to test myself
- Maybe I missed some bridges and protocols, but that'd be more of a lack of knowing; also intentionally ignored X/Twitter > Nitter > RSS > ActicityPub bridges because it felt too much of a stretch.
If you're talking protocols, then why is WordPress there?
If you include Wordpress there are about 100 other softwares that should also show up, but then you also need more paper 😁
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Wasn't quite sure how to fit WordPress, as well as either Minds and Threads, as all 3 end up being, from what I could tell, hybrids.
But interesting. Now that you mention it, I remembered NodeBB also implemented ActivityPub compatibility, though can't remember if it's through optional plugins or if it became an ActivityPub platform altogether. Gonna look up what other softwares are in this situation too.
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Been reading some docs and felt like drawing to get a better picture.
Some things to note:
- Parenthesis indicate bridges
- Fed Bridgy and Mostr appear twice because I don't know if they allow cross-communication
- One-way arrows (→) indicate one-way communication, and two-ways arrows (⇄) indicate the two sides can talk with each other
- Threads to/from Facebook and Instagram communication appears with an interrogation mark because the information I could find didn't feel conclusive and I don't have an account to test myself
- Maybe I missed some bridges and protocols, but that'd be more of a lack of knowing; also intentionally ignored X/Twitter > Nitter > RSS > ActicityPub bridges because it felt too much of a stretch.
Cool. Looks about right to me, not that I'm an expert. Bridgy Fed and Mostr do allow you to chain them together and do Nostr <> AT communication (though more recently there's also Eclipse.Pub that does Nostr <> AT). There are also a few other protocols still in use (Diaspora, DFRN, Zot, Nomad - Diaspora, Friendica, Hubzilla, Streams respectively) although all but Diaspora all internally bridge to Activity Pub so I'm not sure how they'd fit into your model.
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Wasn't quite sure how to fit WordPress, as well as either Minds and Threads, as all 3 end up being, from what I could tell, hybrids.
But interesting. Now that you mention it, I remembered NodeBB also implemented ActivityPub compatibility, though can't remember if it's through optional plugins or if it became an ActivityPub platform altogether. Gonna look up what other softwares are in this situation too.
NodeBB supports ActivityPub out of the box (no plugins) as of v4 🙂
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> If it's some automated feature, I don't think it should be in the source property of the federated JSON in the first place.
Thanks, it's this.
Edit: oh interesting, I looked into it. We serve the absolute URL in HTML but not in markdown. I had no idea threadiverse apps read the markdown. Neat!
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Not sure if you're already aware, but that relative link there is broken in Lemmy, Mbin, and Piefed.
If you used it manually, I'd suggest not using relative links in posts targeted at users from software that hasn't implemented them yet.
If it's some automated feature, I don't think it should be in the source property of the federated JSON in the first place.
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@rekall_incorporated@piefed.social said in [Fediverse wide cross-instance / cross-platform link substitution [UX improvement thoughts]](/post/https%3A%2F%2Fpiefed.social%2Fc%2Ffediverse%2Fp%2F1568622%2Ffediverse-wide-cross-instance-cross-platform-link-substitution-ux-improvement-thoughts):
> This issue is unresolved in Lemmy, but the Lemmy brand is permanently tainted among users who are looking for alternatives to American oligarchic technology services. The low moral standards of the Lemmy devs' (support for the brutal North Korean regime, promotion of russian propaganda narratives that they know are false) is a massive turn off for the exact target market of the Fediverse. It's a fact that many Europeans looking for alternatives instinctively recognize the demagoguery of the Lemmy devs and their fans.I don't think this is true at all.
The average user doesn't know what Lemmy is, let alone the political views of their core development team.
But don't worry, it's like that joke about vegans:
How do you know the Lemmy devs are politically dubious? Don't worry, someone on the threadiverse will tell you.
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How the links act is different from client to client. If you click the link in the Lemmy web UI, it will take you directly to Lemmy.wtf, but if you used Voyager (iOS client), it will automatically redirect to your own instance.
This is something that should be built into the Lemmy web UI.
You can also use browser addons. I have an addon that redirects me to my own instance, if I click on a link in my browser. I also have an addon that takes me from YouTube to Peertube, if the video also exist in PeerTube or if I click a PeerTube link, it takes me to my instance.
Also how dare you criticise the awesome TLD .wtf, which is clearly an abbreviation of “What The Fediverse”?!
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I've seen that being used. It works fine for more technical users, but it's just an extra pain point.
If you make links, you need to apply the service Different UI from whatever instance/client/platform that you are using.I much prefer Piefed's soon to be released link substitution feature.
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Mbin has had that feature for a while too
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It's a temporary workaround but the experience is still clunky
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Well; atleast for lemmy, there's https://lemmyverse.link/ ; which fixes exactly what you mention. You send that link, other people choose their instance in the redirect, and boom!
