Can’t wait to find out how this upgrade enhances my dishwasher’s performance.
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Can’t wait to find out how this upgrade enhances my dishwasher’s performance.
At least it’s not adding new AI features, I guess…
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@ArrestJK @someone_else @dan
The closest we get to dishwasher porn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHP942Livy0@aiuto @someone_else @dan LOL your dishwasher will enjoy that
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@dan
- "My dishwasher is on the internet!"
- "Why is on the internet?"
- "To download software updates!"
- "Why does it need software updates?"
- "To fix security vulnerabilities!"
- "Why would it have security vulnerabilities?"
- "Because it's on the internet!"@someone_else @dan I just got a new dishwasher. Certain (not often used, thank goodness) cleaning cycles are only available via "the app". I made a conscious decision to forego access to these so I would not need to put the thing on the network. But it's very annoying that this tradeoff even needed to be considered. Bosch 800 series, in case anyone cares.
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@dan
- "My dishwasher is on the internet!"
- "Why is on the internet?"
- "To download software updates!"
- "Why does it need software updates?"
- "To fix security vulnerabilities!"
- "Why would it have security vulnerabilities?"
- "Because it's on the internet!"Home appliances are on the internet as part of a planned obsolescence scheme.
They can be bricked remotely to force consumers to buy new appliances.
They are also vulnerable to being hijacked for botnet mischief, surveillance, and kill switches
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@GrahamDowns @someone_else @dan Be realistic. When are you actually micromanaging that stuff so precisely? I'd wager, never. Instead, you have an automation set up somewhere that does this automatically for you.
There is no actual technical reason why that "somewhere" would have to be in the "cloud". It should be in your own home, on your own local network, under your control. And if you really do want to check in on anything from outside, use a VPN to connect to your home network.@Silberwoelfin @GrahamDowns @someone_else @dan I micro my crappy dishwasher and washer daily because eclectricity is substantially cheaper starting 23:00 and its honestly a pita to stay awake till 23:00 everyday I have to turn one of these on.
I sure wish they had Bluetooth or somecrap but I agree I rather have nothing then cloud somethibg compared to local.
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And, what a surprise, that app can display adverts, track your location, watch your network and WiFi connections, take pictures and record audio. Because of course it can. How could you possibly set the dishwasher without all those juicy permissions?
https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/reports/com.bosch.sh.ui.android/latest/#permissions
@CppGuy @jernej__s @someone_else @dan Interesting to know Bosch has gone down that drain.
I feel better about skipping them for my most recent purchase (though I chose to do so because the parts were too pricey here)
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Can’t wait to find out how this upgrade enhances my dishwasher’s performance.
At least it’s not adding new AI features, I guess…
@dan "medieval dynasty", a game, has an npc farmer complaining;
"I need to grow cabbages, so i can make fertiliser, to grow more cabbages, to make more fertiliser. *sighs*"
This reminds me of that. -
@Silberwoelfin @GrahamDowns @someone_else @dan I micro my crappy dishwasher and washer daily because eclectricity is substantially cheaper starting 23:00 and its honestly a pita to stay awake till 23:00 everyday I have to turn one of these on.
I sure wish they had Bluetooth or somecrap but I agree I rather have nothing then cloud somethibg compared to local.
@dantalion @Silberwoelfin @someone_else @dan we don't have cheap power during particular hours; our price is the same regardless. We do have solar, though, as I said, so we try to run the heavy appliances only when the sun is shining.
The things we do to save money, eh? *sigh*
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Can’t wait to find out how this upgrade enhances my dishwasher’s performance.
At least it’s not adding new AI features, I guess…
When reading all this I am considering to scan the local ads and look for a second piece of my 10 y old dishwasher which communicates only via a few LED and store it in the basement as backup.
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@dan
- "My dishwasher is on the internet!"
- "Why is on the internet?"
- "To download software updates!"
- "Why does it need software updates?"
- "To fix security vulnerabilities!"
- "Why would it have security vulnerabilities?"
- "Because it's on the internet!"