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    BSD Bros vs SysV Sisters. Is this anything

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      BSD Bros vs SysV Sisters. Is this anything

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      @mcc no, because Illumos is garbage

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        @mcc no, because Illumos is garbage

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        @ariadne @mcc what's bad about it? (i've never used illumos and my knowledge about it is limited to "they made some amusing slides about the linux subsystem")

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          @ariadne @mcc what's bad about it? (i've never used illumos and my knowledge about it is limited to "they made some amusing slides about the linux subsystem")

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          @whitequark @mcc

          the main issue is that Sun did not fully open source everything in the first place. there are quite a few binary blobs that still exist, even today. this is not a thing with BSD or Linux.

          beyond that, Solaris is just a clunky, slow and bloated system. almost all of the good ideas from Solaris have been reimplemented elsewhere in some form or another.

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            @mcc can't we all just be POSIX Pals?

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              @whitequark @mcc

              the main issue is that Sun did not fully open source everything in the first place. there are quite a few binary blobs that still exist, even today. this is not a thing with BSD or Linux.

              beyond that, Solaris is just a clunky, slow and bloated system. almost all of the good ideas from Solaris have been reimplemented elsewhere in some form or another.

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              @ariadne @whitequark @mcc I found it mostly just incredibly stable, predictable and well-documented. The man pages were top notch, and the system felt properly engineered. But it has definitely aged a lot and most Solaris distributions nowadays import lots of Linux and FreeBSD tech.

              Sun not open-sourcing everything was partially legal reasons with 3rd party contractors holding the copyright, e.g. with i18n code. And then Oracle came and put a nail in the coffin.

              But yes, most of the ideas of Solaris live on, be them SMF (upstart, launched, systemd) or ZFS (Btrfs). Like most of Sun tech, Star Office being LibreOffice now, Sun Java, etc.

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