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@peter Yeah, I really don’t understand it. I just spent my 40s writing code too, and now at the end of them I’m… writing code, because I never lost it. Just published a new thing yesterday, wrote it in C mostly without even autocomplete since I largely used BBEdit rather than Xcode.
I would be absolutely mortified if I had to use an LLM to be productive, and I would find admitting to using one deeply, deeply shameful.
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what a fucking shitshow.
@peter "Chat, make this shit you built for me more secure, so I don't get sued to hell. And get it right, pretty please? I don't have time to read all that code."
There, vibe-prompted that for him
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what a fucking shitshow.
@peter in een bekende nederlandse talkshow werd een demo gegeven met openclaw, de AI die je leven overneemt (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4v5cHTzLN8). De conclusie was gelukkig: doodeng, niet gebruiken!! De maker geeft nu min of meer toe dat hij het project niet meer onder controle geeft…. wat kan er mis gaan😅😱?
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@peter he made a malware distribution tool and he's handwringing about whether to turn it off. Lol. Lmao.
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@peter @suzannealdrich Totally. If I had a dime for every tale of "I'd almost forgetten how to code it's been so long maaaan, what with my 7-figure VP job in Santa Clara and all…but then I picked up Claude Code and now I'm releasing 80 new apps every hour. This is the greatest thing in the history of mankind!"
……🤦🏻♂️
@jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich statistically (apparently) most UK motorcycling accidents are (or were) mid life crisis guys who had a bike in their youth, got a family and a car, kids grew up, and they wanted to feel young again and got an op bike with their extra income.
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what a fucking shitshow.
@peter ich feiere Calw, es hat das Zeug KI und den Rest der vernetzten IT zu ruinieren. Ich gucke schon mal wo bei meinen Eltern im Keller die Andruckpresse gelandet ist und lege Rötel und Skriptol bereit.
Gut, wenn eins einen Beruf richtig gelernt hat und nicht nur Promts in ein halbfertiges Produkt eintippen.
Vielleicht auch einfach mal die Firmen Custom GPT mit Moltbook verbinden und zusehen wie sie zerstört wird.
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what a fucking shitshow.
@peter that's hilarious
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what a fucking shitshow.
@peter While I stay away from OpenClaw (aka AutoGPT) or any such invasive tools, I can't help but shake my head at some of the comments in the screenshot.
"I made a knife. It cuts things."
"OMFG I just cut off my own pinky finger with your invention!!!11elf!1!!!1 Make it safe!"Sorry, but have some of these people been potty-trained yet?!
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what a fucking shitshow.
@peter lol, lmao even
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Peter Steinberger is a great example of how AI is catnip very specifically for middle-aged tech guys. they spend their 20s and 30s writing code, burn out or do management stuff for a decade, then come back in their late 40s/50s and want to try to throw that fastball again. Claude Code makes them feel like they still got it.
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@jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich statistically (apparently) most UK motorcycling accidents are (or were) mid life crisis guys who had a bike in their youth, got a family and a car, kids grew up, and they wanted to feel young again and got an op bike with their extra income.
@scrwd @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich
Also See The Prologue in:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rhesus_Chart
by @cstross
for how bad this could go!
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@peter Yeah, I really don’t understand it. I just spent my 40s writing code too, and now at the end of them I’m… writing code, because I never lost it. Just published a new thing yesterday, wrote it in C mostly without even autocomplete since I largely used BBEdit rather than Xcode.
I would be absolutely mortified if I had to use an LLM to be productive, and I would find admitting to using one deeply, deeply shameful.
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lol everything is happening because the Silicon Valley guys got old and are having a midlife crisis.
@peter It would be laughable if it wasn't so sad.
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@peter Yeah, I really don’t understand it. I just spent my 40s writing code too, and now at the end of them I’m… writing code, because I never lost it. Just published a new thing yesterday, wrote it in C mostly without even autocomplete since I largely used BBEdit rather than Xcode.
I would be absolutely mortified if I had to use an LLM to be productive, and I would find admitting to using one deeply, deeply shameful.
@eschaton @peter The LLM isn't the problem, neither is it age, it's a techbro thing. Money to the exclusion of all else.
If we take a stereotypical attitude to aging it becomes harder to learn, and reactions slow down.
What you'd actually expect from a middle aged solution provider who has aged wisely is code that has been checked and tested before release (because you've learned not to trust either machines or people, and the consequences of not meeting a specification), slower more measured releases with plenty of detail (again : bitten by customer feedback), but most importantly the design being secure and protected against abuse (gestures at news articles for the past three decades).
You could only just, if you were lucky, get away with sub par security and design in the early 00s and it only got worse every year. This is not new, and anyone who doesn't account for it is both inept and doesn't care.
'oh no, what do you want me to do, it might stop my magic money tree because I don't care about you'
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what a fucking shitshow.
@peter really surprised? I mean the guy lets AI write code he des not review and blasts it in the world
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what a fucking shitshow.
@peter Ah, the guy Armin (mitsuhiko), the dev behind minijinja, credits for getting him into slop generation. He seems like an inspiration.
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what a fucking shitshow.
@peter Irresponsible AI is not new, but it is dangerous
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@jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich statistically (apparently) most UK motorcycling accidents are (or were) mid life crisis guys who had a bike in their youth, got a family and a car, kids grew up, and they wanted to feel young again and got an op bike with their extra income.
@scrwd @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich Many years ago, a drinking pal was a social worker with a niche caseload. Young (for the most part) men who had suffered head injuries (and subsequent disablement) in motorcycle crashes. Mid-life guys pobably have a residual sense of survival.
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what a fucking shitshow.
@peter Vibe Coding, Vibe Security
Same thing at Anthropic ("Users are recommended to be aware..." 🤣): https://www.promptarmor.com/resources/claude-cowork-exfiltrates-files
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@jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich statistically (apparently) most UK motorcycling accidents are (or were) mid life crisis guys who had a bike in their youth, got a family and a car, kids grew up, and they wanted to feel young again and got an op bike with their extra income.
@scrwd @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich I remember reading about that.
It mostly seemed to come down to them underestimating how much two things had changed in the intervening years:- how badly their reflexes had slowed down, and
- how wildly the power and agility of sportsbikes had improved (the Fireblade was a legit game-changer).
It may have been about feeling young again, but it seems more often to have been that they feel they can pick it up again.
Me? I just never had kids :)
I see a common factor, in any case: seriously underestimating just how abruptly and how badly it can get out of hand.
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