Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.

[nelson@wetdry.world]

@mstar @hpod16 that would be completely ignoring the huge impact of misskey and forks, and how many of the mastodon contributors are international

[mstar@mk.absturztau.be]

@nelson@wetdry.world @hpod16@eupolicy.social eh, not really. Sure, misskey is a big part now. But the big initial push was Mastodon. And, by share, Masto still runs on like 3/4 of all servers iirc. And you can still claim that Masto is German because the main driving force behind development is still the non-profit, located in Germany (even if German government bullshit caused them to also register in Canada iirc)

[nelson@wetdry.world]

@mstar @hpod16 true, but to call the fediverse essentially an "european social media" is a gross misunderstanding and misrepresentation of what happens in the space, both of open source in general and just the nature of the fediverse as a network

[mstar@mk.absturztau.be]

@nelson@wetdry.world @hpod16@eupolicy.social I think some context might have got lost. Your initial question was if the fediverse was created in Europe. To which the answer is that the protocol wasn't, but the software that made it famous was, especially during that initial growth period.
Of course it's a lot more diverse nowadays and that diversity keeps increasing. One of the biggest seeds was and still is European though

[hiphopheaven@mastodon.social]

@hpod16 it is not the problem . Facebook is the only one who is about people you known rather then artists, celebrities , companies etx

[nebby@is.not-a.top]

@nelson @mstar @hpod16 "linux [the kernel] is finnish and bsd is american" haha no both are international

[stooovie@mas.to]

@hpod16 ...and then propose a new proprietary network "W"

[mstar@mk.absturztau.be]

@nebby@is.not-a.top @nelson@wetdry.world @hpod16@eupolicy.social as I've said in my other reply: Masto started German. It evolved over time, like most foss projects and is now a lot more international

[whitemice@mastodon.social]

@hpod16 Ugh, I - as an American citizen - am so jealous. I have never in my thirty-year career in IT/Technology seen any unit of the American government make a non-terrible software/solution recommendation.

👍 Well don.e

[philcowans@universeodon.com]

@hpod16 - is the European Commission in a position to more actively help make onboarding easier? Would be amazing if they could go beyond just referring people to the existing documentation.

[rozeboosje@masto.ai]

@hpod16 @moftasa It shouldn't really matter, though. The server may be EU based and only open to EU citizens to register, but it's not a "silo". It's simply one's home base. Other than server block lists implemented by the server's moderators, you can engage with anyone, anywhere, in the Fediverse.

[dan_ep@mastodon.social]

@hpod16 one cannot blame them at all. Facebook, X, Instagram, and similar platforms owned by large IT companies rely on ease of use and comercial stuff to remain popular.

For good, alternatives like Mastodon remain social because they rely on recommendation rather than profit.

I try to carry my friends here, while looking for new ones (the second, being the easier).

[rozeboosje@masto.ai]

@project1enigma @hpod16 @moftasa The moderators on the proposed EU centric server can be very strict about allowing engagement from the USA. Some USA based servers allow hateful content, others don't. The mods can block entire servers that are lax about allowing such negativity while still allowing engagement from "nice" servers. I imagine the original requester might be okay with that? Otherwise, yes, an EU server *could* be created that blocks literally EVERYTHING that isn't EU.

[xinit@mastodon.coffee]

@hpod16 I'd go out on a limb to suggest that "EU citizen only" means "no foreigners, no migrants"

[benny@kirche.social]

@project1enigma @lucien @hpod16 I have no clue about UX or how it works. Years ago I had an account on Twitter, before the Boer bought it. They had no app on F-Droid, so I used the web interfacewhich wasn't really better than Mastodon's in my opinion.

[hpod16@eupolicy.social]

@xinit gosh I hope that’s not what they meant.
Maybe the social media manager was just a bit too excited about mastodon and looking for a way to promote it.

[imbl@social.treehouse.systems]

@MissWarcraft @stefan @hpod16 they didn't crack down on the hate, they still allow transphobic harassment, they still allow fascists and nazis, and the people running the company are transphobes. jay even made up new transphobic memes for her nazi friends

bluesky isn't a friend to the marginalized

[xinit@mastodon.coffee]

@hpod16 To be clear, the EU Commission is fine, it's the redacted person demanding the 'citizens-only' one that reads oddly to me.

I might just be cynical :D

[hpod16@eupolicy.social]

@xinit I know I know. To be honest, I didn’t notice that part when I first read the comment, and slightly cringing about the phrasing now. When you handle thousands of comments per day your brain gets a bit muddled. So I kind of hope people stop noticing. 🤣💜

[gelbphoenix@social.gelbphoenix.de]

@lucien @hpod16 I solution for the "Server choosing" problem can be https://fedidb.com/welcome