Re: Framework, but also extrapolating more generally?
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Re: Framework, but also extrapolating more generally? If your moderation policy, your community stewardship approach, your whole way of interacting with people isn't robust to literal Nazis trying to fuck with your shit, then it just does not work in 2025.
I don't care if you call it a CoC, the paradox of tolerance, or what, but you *need* a strategy for how to tell Nazis to fuck off.
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Re: Framework, but also extrapolating more generally? If your moderation policy, your community stewardship approach, your whole way of interacting with people isn't robust to literal Nazis trying to fuck with your shit, then it just does not work in 2025.
I don't care if you call it a CoC, the paradox of tolerance, or what, but you *need* a strategy for how to tell Nazis to fuck off.
Nazis aren't just clumps of pixels you shoot in Wolfenstein, they're real, actual, malicious fucking people doing shit like tearing down the actual, literal White House. There's a pretty good chance that, if you're responsible for a community you love and care about, some real-life fucking Nazis will show up and start testing your boundaries, checking whether they can subvert your strategy.
So don't wait for that shit, get out in front of it and be prepared to tell them to fuck off.
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Nazis aren't just clumps of pixels you shoot in Wolfenstein, they're real, actual, malicious fucking people doing shit like tearing down the actual, literal White House. There's a pretty good chance that, if you're responsible for a community you love and care about, some real-life fucking Nazis will show up and start testing your boundaries, checking whether they can subvert your strategy.
So don't wait for that shit, get out in front of it and be prepared to tell them to fuck off.
In the Framework case, "you can't call people Nazis" is a terrible moderation policy that serves to tell Nazis that they're completely at home in that community. They are completely shielded from any critique that accurately describes their views, actions, and political allegiance.
That fits perfectly with the fascist methodology of destroying truth. No matter your intentions, that policy might as well be a "Nazis Welcome" sign on the front door.
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Nazis aren't just clumps of pixels you shoot in Wolfenstein, they're real, actual, malicious fucking people doing shit like tearing down the actual, literal White House. There's a pretty good chance that, if you're responsible for a community you love and care about, some real-life fucking Nazis will show up and start testing your boundaries, checking whether they can subvert your strategy.
So don't wait for that shit, get out in front of it and be prepared to tell them to fuck off.
@xgranade that's the Ravelry story