@nazokiyoubinbou @Viss Exactly

[bosh@infosec.exchange]

@Viss excited!

[amar@infosec.exchange]

@Viss he got tired of security and went all in in sauce business

[cr0w@infosec.exchange]

@Viss I was going to make a joke about aliens in San Diego but with DHS the way it is, it would probably not land the way it did in my head.

[viss@mastodon.social]

@cR0w i think we're fortunate in that mastodon is not a place that 'the big important people' look at or care about, heh

[cr0w@infosec.exchange]

@Viss Yeah but I also didn't want people to get all worked up because they thought I was referring to migrants or something.

[viss@mastodon.social]

@cR0w yeah, good call. the people who are just looking for any possible reason to pick a fight do still exist here, sadly

[feliscatusdomesticus@social.vivaldi.net]

@Viss eject the warp core!

[scottwilson@infosec.exchange]

@Viss @cR0w THAT’S TOTALLY NOT TRUE!

[winterknight1337@infosec.exchange]

@Viss wat

[viss@mastodon.social]

@winterknight1337 so the av company wants the slides, and i guess they manually advance the slides as the speaker does? which seems like a boatload of extra work - sec-t and securityfest just use obs and imbibe the speakers laptop as another hdmi stream and just overlay it as another rectangle and it works fine and its easier, so i suggested that labscon tell their av company do to that next year

[winterknight1337@infosec.exchange]

@Viss yeah that’s jank. Idk my roommate is an AV guy so I hear his Opinions on AV setups all the time but there seems to be a few better ways to do it.

[viss@mastodon.social]

@winterknight1337 sec-t and securityfest have av folks in-house, but labscon hires out for it, and i guess the people they hired this time around were kinda the b-team, and now they're doing some damage control

[winterknight1337@infosec.exchange]

@Viss that definitely checks out

[bert_hubert@eupolicy.social]

@Viss I once hacked up something precisely because of these reasons. It is not good but it served me well for public dashboards for years. https://blog.powerdns.com/2014/12/11/powerdns-graphing-as-a-service?hs_amp=true

[davemwilburn@infosec.exchange]

@Viss

I don't have a firm idea of your options, but I wonder whether knowing more about your intended use case might help shape advice.

What kind of data are you looking to visualize, and how/where is it stored?

Is this for single user and as-needed, or something you might want running continuously or for multiple users?

I wonder if @hrbrmstr in particular has thoughts.

[viq@social.hackerspace.pl]

@Viss
Grafana doesn't require elasticsearch unless you're doing very specific things.
And Prometheus is a central place, you install exporters for it everywhere.
You can push metrics to influxdb.
There's netdata.
Cockpit has some of that.

I'm not sure what you want, I know some/a bunch of tools, if you're up for some back and forth.

[mr_daemon@untrusted.website]

@Viss I had similar concerns when I threw out netdata for Having Become Terrible(tm).

I didn't want to setup an elasticsearch cluster just to hold metrics.

It turns out grafana itself is fairly lightweight, and you can swap out prometheus server with something like VictoriaMetrics + vmagent, which lets you do push instead of pull depending on context, and also just normal endpoint scraping.

The datasource itself can either be transparently added as a prometheus one, or as a victoriametrics one (which nets you a few query language bonuses).

It's supremely low resource usage and does not consume much disk space either, to much of my surprise. None of it require a k8s cluster just to collect metrics either.

It's worth exploring, I think.

[fritzadalis@infosec.exchange]

@Viss
SQL Server Reporting Services

[davemwilburn@infosec.exchange]

@Viss @hrbrmstr

Like, depending on what you want to do, it might be as simple as throwing your data into DuckDB and generating some time series graphs with Plotly with a tiny bit of Python in a Jupyter NB, or a dashboard built using Dash. It's been a while since I've done any of that personally, though.

[larsmb@mastodon.online]

@Viss As long as you can push whatever metrics you have into a database/store of your choice, pretty sure you can use Grafana to visualize it.

I just push my metrics to postgres and query from Grafana.