@nazokiyoubinbou @Viss Exactly
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@Viss that sounds right
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@Viss I think that, plus the absence of engagement maximizing algorithms, plus the absence of “suggested” or “promoted” content, plus the absence of ads and thus revenue sharing, plus the ability to choose an instance by its moderation and (de)federation, explains the healthier discourse in fediverse. That 3% quickly get themselves banned on any instance the rest of us would choose, and find themselves relegated to the instances with which ours won’t federate. And then no one sees their toxicity but their fellow denizens of the cesspool servers.
@deFractal @Viss in fediverse the social cost of migration to a server with better moderation is extremely low. But for other places that cost is skyhigh because most of the time it means leaving your community. And as twitter shows, things can get really shitty and people will still stay.
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@Viss Just one more reminder that community and proper moderation are vital.
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@Viss Just one more reminder that community and proper moderation are vital.
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@Viss naming suggestion “404 NOT FOUND”
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@Viss my old neighbor had a bluetooth soundbar in his man cave that i could connect to because it was open auth, so i used to drop in and blast “Hello” by Adele every so often.
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@Viss who remembers upsidedownternet
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@Viss my old neighbor had a bluetooth soundbar in his man cave that i could connect to because it was open auth, so i used to drop in and blast “Hello” by Adele every so often.
@SecureOwl heh, yeah in this case it wont pair but it stops whatever im watching, which is annoying
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@Viss I mean aren’t you curious though? What exactly are they watching? Perhaps they want to simply share it with you ;)
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@Viss I mean aren’t you curious though? What exactly are they watching? Perhaps they want to simply share it with you ;)
@k3ym0 yeah thats the opposite of whats happening. if they control my chromecast they control what i watch
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@Viss my old neighbor had a bluetooth soundbar in his man cave that i could connect to because it was open auth, so i used to drop in and blast “Hello” by Adele every so often.
@SecureOwl @Viss
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@k3ym0 yeah thats the opposite of whats happening. if they control my chromecast they control what i watch
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@Viss I identify with this but my brain instructs me to complete a task unrelated to the deadline
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@Viss s/handling of the touchpad //
FTFY
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@Viss It’s the modern equivalent of “Hey Peter, man, check out channel 9! Check out this chick!”
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@Viss @zarchasmpgmr At this point all stocks are meme stocks. There's no rational decision making being made.
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@Viss I guess an alternate reading of the data is it only takes 3% to make a space extremely toxic :/
@aburka @Viss This is kind of a well-known thing among experienced community moderators already, though - it's always just a handful of people inciting shit and riling up everyone else. Even in the context of school bullying, it's the same thing - a few bullies and a pile of bystanders.
Where it often goes wrong in practice is that people are afraid to moderate decisively against such people because those people tend to be very good at walking lines, and with a prevailing ideology of "you can't ban someone unless they are clearly breaking a defined rule".... well, you can see where this is going.
Pretty much the only working defense against this sort of toxicity is moderating subjectively for community health rather than legalistically, and just not enough places are willing to do that today. -
@aburka @Viss This is kind of a well-known thing among experienced community moderators already, though - it's always just a handful of people inciting shit and riling up everyone else. Even in the context of school bullying, it's the same thing - a few bullies and a pile of bystanders.
Where it often goes wrong in practice is that people are afraid to moderate decisively against such people because those people tend to be very good at walking lines, and with a prevailing ideology of "you can't ban someone unless they are clearly breaking a defined rule".... well, you can see where this is going.
Pretty much the only working defense against this sort of toxicity is moderating subjectively for community health rather than legalistically, and just not enough places are willing to do that today.
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