"Well ICE broke his rib a week ago so that proves he's a trouble maker!"
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"Well ICE broke his rib a week ago so that proves he's a trouble maker!"
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Maybe. I don't know. This is going to sound crazy but maybe it shows that ICE has been trying to kill him for a whole week instead?
I mean, if he'd so much as given an ICE employee cause to stumble resulting a self-inflicted paper cut we'd KNOW. So it sounds like ICE broke his rib and he didn't shoot them then either.
Even though, you know, self defense and all that.
Anyways.
@futurebird Yeah, when I read about the prior ICE assault, I figured one of the agents recognized him and decided to execute him this time, similar to when they sandwich and ram observers in cars trying to generate an excuse.
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"Well ICE broke his rib a week ago so that proves he's a trouble maker!"
...
.... . .
Maybe. I don't know. This is going to sound crazy but maybe it shows that ICE has been trying to kill him for a whole week instead?
I mean, if he'd so much as given an ICE employee cause to stumble resulting a self-inflicted paper cut we'd KNOW. So it sounds like ICE broke his rib and he didn't shoot them then either.
Even though, you know, self defense and all that.
Anyways.
@futurebird Oh, I love me a bit of victim blaming. Solves every problem.
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"Well ICE broke his rib a week ago so that proves he's a trouble maker!"
...
.... . .
Maybe. I don't know. This is going to sound crazy but maybe it shows that ICE has been trying to kill him for a whole week instead?
I mean, if he'd so much as given an ICE employee cause to stumble resulting a self-inflicted paper cut we'd KNOW. So it sounds like ICE broke his rib and he didn't shoot them then either.
Even though, you know, self defense and all that.
Anyways.
@futurebird Abuser and fash logic is that if someone is a victim, they did something to deserve it, and it's morally right and a social good to revictimize them. DARVO is an instinctive response. This factoid will be persuasive to this type of person.
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"Well ICE broke his rib a week ago so that proves he's a trouble maker!"
...
.... . .
Maybe. I don't know. This is going to sound crazy but maybe it shows that ICE has been trying to kill him for a whole week instead?
I mean, if he'd so much as given an ICE employee cause to stumble resulting a self-inflicted paper cut we'd KNOW. So it sounds like ICE broke his rib and he didn't shoot them then either.
Even though, you know, self defense and all that.
Anyways.
@futurebird when i first hear about it it was framed as "they've had beef with this guy and his ultimate murder may well have been wilfully targeted (implication: premeditated)" but yeah i can see the fash spinning it this way too -
@futurebird Abuser and fash logic is that if someone is a victim, they did something to deserve it, and it's morally right and a social good to revictimize them. DARVO is an instinctive response. This factoid will be persuasive to this type of person.
FACT
also:
right out of the abuser's playbook
i didn't do it
if i did it was your fault
if you would just obey me this wouldn't happen
if you keep defying me this will continue to happen
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"Well ICE broke his rib a week ago so that proves he's a trouble maker!"
...
.... . .
Maybe. I don't know. This is going to sound crazy but maybe it shows that ICE has been trying to kill him for a whole week instead?
I mean, if he'd so much as given an ICE employee cause to stumble resulting a self-inflicted paper cut we'd KNOW. So it sounds like ICE broke his rib and he didn't shoot them then either.
Even though, you know, self defense and all that.
Anyways.
@futurebird it shows quite clearly who the brave one in this situation was
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FACT
also:
right out of the abuser's playbook
i didn't do it
if i did it was your fault
if you would just obey me this wouldn't happen
if you keep defying me this will continue to happen
"if you keep defying me this will continue to happen"
But it will also keep happening if you don't so... not worth listening to anything said by anyone like this.
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"if you keep defying me this will continue to happen"
But it will also keep happening if you don't so... not worth listening to anything said by anyone like this.
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@futurebird Might as well be "that woman already had a black eye, so she asked for it."
🙄@SrRochardBunson @futurebird What's more enraging is that you just described the world they want.
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This is "You can tell she's a mouthy wife from all them bruises" levels of BS.
@futurebird it's always the same tactics, just a sliding scale (Overton window?) of who they're willing to apply it to. you could almost draw a hierarchy (or at least a fair step graph with error bars) of who they're allowed to abuse under different circumstances.
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