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  4. Can you please correct the naming of your Fedidevs.com starter packs?

Can you please correct the naming of your Fedidevs.com starter packs?

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  • kathsone@infosec.exchangeundefined kathsone@infosec.exchange

    Can you please correct the naming of your Fedidevs.com starter packs?

    @filippodb @amministratore dear Mastodon.uno administrators,
    I've noticed that some starter packs you've uploaded to the site have incorrect descriptions: they almost seem designed to promote ONLY USERS of your instance, while ignoring all other instances in the #fediverse. In fact, they were all created by service accounts on the mastodon.uno instance.

    This seems understandable, but I think it's urgent to rename the descriptions of those starter packs to specify that they are exclusively for users of your instance, otherwise they could mislead other users.

    The starter packs in question are as follows:

    • Satira vignette e meme (created by the @satira account, a mastodon.uno service account)
    • Retrogames (created by the @kickoffworld account, a mastodon.uno service account)
    • Profili Free Open Source su Mastodon on Mastodon (created by the @opensource account, a mastodon.uno service account)
    • Ambiente Mobilità sostenibile e giustizia climatica (created by the @ambiente account, a mastodon.uno service account)
    • Fedilug Account Linux Italiani Account Italian Linux Accounts (created by the @linux account, a mastodon.uno service account)
    • Sicurezza digitale (created by the @sicurezza account, a Mastodon.uno service account)
    • Fediverso e Social network (created by the @socialnetwork account, a Mastodon.uno service account)

    I repeat: it's right to advertise to your users, but it's important to explain that it's self-promotional advertising. For example, the Mastodon UNO & Official Devol Accounts starter pack clearly specifies that it refers to the users of your instance.

    This is out of respect for all Italian users of the Fediverse and for the developers who created and made the fantastic Fedidevs resource available for free.

    Thank you for your attention and have a good evening

    @anze3db @fedidevs

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    @kathsone that instance was created pretending to be the "Mastodon Italiana" instance, as if it were the official Italian server. It was a clever move because it attracted a huge number of users, but now they might as well stop using these tricks!

    Unfortunately, it seems to me that administrators are tempted to confine their users in a cage where they try to keep following the same people from the same instance and the same promotional accounts.

    @filippodb @amministratore @anze3db @fedidevs

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    • esserci@mastodon.worldundefined esserci@mastodon.world

      @kathsone that instance was created pretending to be the "Mastodon Italiana" instance, as if it were the official Italian server. It was a clever move because it attracted a huge number of users, but now they might as well stop using these tricks!

      Unfortunately, it seems to me that administrators are tempted to confine their users in a cage where they try to keep following the same people from the same instance and the same promotional accounts.

      @filippodb @amministratore @anze3db @fedidevs

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      @esserci Sorry, but I'm not interested in controversy. I just want to help solve what I think is a problem. But I don't want to start a controversy in public because, in any case, the problem doesn't directly concern me.
      @filippodb @amministratore @anze3db @fedidevs

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      • kathsone@infosec.exchangeundefined kathsone@infosec.exchange

        @esserci Sorry, but I'm not interested in controversy. I just want to help solve what I think is a problem. But I don't want to start a controversy in public because, in any case, the problem doesn't directly concern me.
        @filippodb @amministratore @anze3db @fedidevs

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        @kathsone @esserci @filippodb @amministratore @anze3db @fedidevs wow this is going to be a troll discussion, please note there're plenty of starter pack from the same istance because the faq clearly says:

        "It can be used to help new users find accounts to follow, or to promote specific communities or topics."

        those idiots are clearly trolling, starter pack are made to privately promote a specific communities or whatever you want.

        just another italian example: https://fedidevs.com/s/NzYy/

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        • socialnetwork@mastodon.unoundefined socialnetwork@mastodon.uno

          @kathsone @esserci @filippodb @amministratore @anze3db @fedidevs wow this is going to be a troll discussion, please note there're plenty of starter pack from the same istance because the faq clearly says:

          "It can be used to help new users find accounts to follow, or to promote specific communities or topics."

          those idiots are clearly trolling, starter pack are made to privately promote a specific communities or whatever you want.

          just another italian example: https://fedidevs.com/s/NzYy/

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          Sorry, @socialnetwork , I don't know who @esserci is, nor if he's a troll. If he's a troll, you can block him, but I asked you or your admins @filippodb @amministratore the question.
          Could you answer me instead of the troll?
          @anze3db @fedidevs

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          • kathsone@infosec.exchangeundefined kathsone@infosec.exchange

            Sorry, @socialnetwork , I don't know who @esserci is, nor if he's a troll. If he's a troll, you can block him, but I asked you or your admins @filippodb @amministratore the question.
            Could you answer me instead of the troll?
            @anze3db @fedidevs

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            #6

            @kathsone @esserci @anze3db @fedidevs please note that m1 admin @filippodb & @amministratore don't even made a single starter kit, so your message is incorrect, the only official starter kit used for new users is this one: https://fedidevs.com/s/NzQ2/

            other lists are fanmade selections.and they'll probably add more users or maybe improve the descriptions.

            In our selection we really want to add international accounts as soon as possible, we just added mastodonmigration and fediversesymbol

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            • socialnetwork@mastodon.unoundefined socialnetwork@mastodon.uno

              @kathsone @esserci @anze3db @fedidevs please note that m1 admin @filippodb & @amministratore don't even made a single starter kit, so your message is incorrect, the only official starter kit used for new users is this one: https://fedidevs.com/s/NzQ2/

              other lists are fanmade selections.and they'll probably add more users or maybe improve the descriptions.

              In our selection we really want to add international accounts as soon as possible, we just added mastodonmigration and fediversesymbol

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              @socialnetwork What?????????
              What is a fan account?
              All Italian users, not just those on your server, know that those accounts are managed by your admin staff. I'm shocked that you don't state that those accounts are managed by the admin staff! This, in my opinion, is truly strange.

              @esserci @anze3db @fedidevs @filippodb @amministratore

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              • kathsone@infosec.exchangeundefined kathsone@infosec.exchange

                @socialnetwork What?????????
                What is a fan account?
                All Italian users, not just those on your server, know that those accounts are managed by your admin staff. I'm shocked that you don't state that those accounts are managed by the admin staff! This, in my opinion, is truly strange.

                @esserci @anze3db @fedidevs @filippodb @amministratore

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                @kathsone @esserci @anze3db @fedidevs @filippodb @amministratore The admin accounts have a admin or moderator badge, those are the only official staff members.
                And there’s a reason why instance owners don’t want to create “official lists”: it instantly attracts people who love to cherry-pick, nitpick, or turn everything into drama

                So, as already said, the only official starter pack is the one made by Devol.
                That’s it
                Everything else is community-made, nice to have, but not “official” in any way

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                • socialnetwork@mastodon.unoundefined socialnetwork@mastodon.uno

                  @kathsone @esserci @anze3db @fedidevs @filippodb @amministratore The admin accounts have a admin or moderator badge, those are the only official staff members.
                  And there’s a reason why instance owners don’t want to create “official lists”: it instantly attracts people who love to cherry-pick, nitpick, or turn everything into drama

                  So, as already said, the only official starter pack is the one made by Devol.
                  That’s it
                  Everything else is community-made, nice to have, but not “official” in any way

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                  @socialnetwork Why do you continue to manipulate my statements? I said those accounts are clearly managed by Mastodon.uno administrators. I didn't say those accounts are "administrator accounts."

                  Those accounts aren't "fan-managed" (a statement that insults my intelligence!) but are managed by @filippodb and @amministratore

                  They are, in effect, company accounts that convey information with the same patterns and expressions used by mastodon.uno administrator accounts.

                  I'm genuinely concerned that you deny this! But why do you do it?

                  Here you can see the reasons why I can make these statements with some confidence.

                  Aside from that, I urgently need you to change the description of the starter packs, at least out of respect for the project's promoters @anze3db and @fedidevs

                  @esserci

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                  • kathsone@infosec.exchangeundefined kathsone@infosec.exchange

                    @socialnetwork Why do you continue to manipulate my statements? I said those accounts are clearly managed by Mastodon.uno administrators. I didn't say those accounts are "administrator accounts."

                    Those accounts aren't "fan-managed" (a statement that insults my intelligence!) but are managed by @filippodb and @amministratore

                    They are, in effect, company accounts that convey information with the same patterns and expressions used by mastodon.uno administrator accounts.

                    I'm genuinely concerned that you deny this! But why do you do it?

                    Here you can see the reasons why I can make these statements with some confidence.

                    Aside from that, I urgently need you to change the description of the starter packs, at least out of respect for the project's promoters @anze3db and @fedidevs

                    @esserci

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                    @kathsone @anze3db @fedidevs The funny thing is that you still don’t realize you were right: all those fan accounts are slowly adding relevant users from other instances, and now they look much better than before.

                    Just a quick note: Mastodon.uno is not a company. It is part of the non-profit organization @fedimedia
                    And to the Fedidevs developers: you’ve done a fantastic job. Thank you very much. I don’t want to bother anyone further, so I’ll silence this discussion now.

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                    • socialnetwork@mastodon.unoundefined socialnetwork@mastodon.uno

                      @kathsone @esserci @anze3db @fedidevs @filippodb @amministratore The admin accounts have a admin or moderator badge, those are the only official staff members.
                      And there’s a reason why instance owners don’t want to create “official lists”: it instantly attracts people who love to cherry-pick, nitpick, or turn everything into drama

                      So, as already said, the only official starter pack is the one made by Devol.
                      That’s it
                      Everything else is community-made, nice to have, but not “official” in any way

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                      Quindi stiamo dicendo che gli unici account ufficiali sono quelli con il "badge", come @filippodb e @amministratore, che però non rispondono.

                      Ma questa risposta evidentemente non è ufficiale, visto che arriva da chi quel "badge" non ce l'ha.

                      Oppure ha ragione @kathsone e @socialnetwork è ufficiale, risponde ufficialmente; ufficialmente dichiarando di non essere una fonte ufficiale; cosa che decisamente suona come una contorsione logica?

                      C'è molta confusione sotto il cielo.
                      @anze3db @fedidevs

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