why is nobody using package managers anymore!!!!!

[jasmine@chaosfem.tw]

or gopher

ftp anything but this crap

[luc_coder@pleroma.envs.net]

@jasmine
I agree but [insert disagreement] no, really! I would love an ideal solution yet the ecosystem is fragmented. Only covers-all solution I think of is npm but no one trusts it. However: when big corp or entities with money does this> zero excuses to publish actual debs,rpm,etc really

[jasmine@chaosfem.tw]

@luc_coder just put a download on a web page

[melissabeartrix@gives.hugz.online]

@jasmine

Spiders

Giggles

Hugz & xXx

[jasmine@chaosfem.tw]

@dhfir i have no idea, i miss bsd

[zaire@fedi.absturztau.be]

@dhfir @jasmine curl into bash is worse than windows exe

[burnitdown@beige.party]

@jasmine

tech bros:

: a sensible package manager
: the linux equivalent of Dolphin.exe

[arina@girlcock.club]

@luc_coder @jasmine I agree that ecosystem fragmentation is a bitch, but I think there are better ways around it.
Flatpak, Appimage, Homebrew...

[jasmine@chaosfem.tw]

ok i solved it

i'll live-patch the update script to output the url instead of curling it, and then i'll do the download on a remote box via ssh and bring in the file with scp, easy

maybe i'll make a shell script that does this for other installers using the same pattern too. i could call it bum, bro upgrade manager

bum update

or maybe i'll just call it 🍑

using an emoji as the binary name, how's that for a pattern? such innovation

[ivan@possum.city]

@jasmine@chaosfem.tw

Tailscale just has a script that automatically chooses where to install it from based on what package managers you have

[jasmine@chaosfem.tw]

@ivan doesn't matter when the source 403's my IP

[ivan@possum.city]

@jasmine@chaosfem.tw lol what was it?

[marijn@chilemasto.casa]

@jasmine Because the pitch-deck calls for growning a trained userbase for when they're out of runway and the VCs make them pivot to selling you for pennies.

[jasmine@chaosfem.tw]

linux needs to add this to systemd

systemctl bro-install whatever

and then it auto-resolves that to https://whatever/install.sh

it's the perfect solution, the init package manager

hey isn't that nix

[gildilinie@beige.party]

@jasmine systemd only uses custom formats so. sh is out

[luc_coder@pleroma.envs.net]

@arina
@jasmine

Yes. DMG, EXE and Appimage download on webbed site

[jasmine@chaosfem.tw]

@gildilinie it's usually bash scripts that won't work with sh though

[anyia@lgbtqia.space]

@jasmine somehow it feels like 🍑.sh would be even worse 😂

[jasmine@chaosfem.tw]

@anyia no that's peak shell imo

[snep@y.diskcat.com]

@zaire @jasmine @dhfir Is it though? The dangers and side effects are practically the same