Some thoughts on Mozilla's trajectory and Waterfox's stance on AI in the browser ๐
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Some thoughts on Mozilla's trajectory and Waterfox's stance on AI in the browser ๐
https://www.waterfox.com/blog/no-ai-here-response-to-mozilla/?v=1
@Waterfox can you do a musl build as well as the glibc one?
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Some thoughts on Mozilla's trajectory and Waterfox's stance on AI in the browser ๐
https://www.waterfox.com/blog/no-ai-here-response-to-mozilla/?v=1
@Waterfox "Their lunch is being eaten by AI browsers." -- Chrome was dominating before Google started to add "AI" features to it. I'm sure there's an example out there, but I don't think I've once heard someone say they prefer Chrome over Firefox because of "AI" built in to Chrome. But I often hear people say they use Chrome because it works (noting that Google abused their monopoly position when repeatedly sabotaging their sites for Firefox). It seems like there was an uptick in Interest in Firefox after Google banned ad blockers, but "AI" in Firefox and tone deaf governance from Mozilla has more than counteracted that effect. So I'm not sure I agree with your premise there.
I often see smaller companies trying to do the same thing as larger companies, by making an assumption that the large company knows what people want, but this is often a kind of "cargo culting" effecting. Large companies very often don't do things because people want them (was just reading an article about Paraquat in the US, then there's rBST and everything Monsanto has ever done). Large companies often succeed exactly because they can do profoundly bad things and survive while their smaller competition destroys themselves trying to play follow-the-leader. Microsoft can add Clippy (Clipit) to Microsoft Word that pops up and refuses to go away without a complex, non-intuitive sequence of clicks, that is nearly universally despised, because we ascribe a "no other choice, have to deal with it" superpower to Microsoft (as with Monsanto), but it would be suicide for eg LibreOffice to attempt the same abuse of power (or for independent dairies selling at farmer's market to proudly advertise rBST in their milk). They do not have the power they can abuse. Avoiding getting killed in games of "follow the leader" led by tech giants requires understanding the market and not assuming tech giants are providing what people want. It requires understanding why giant corporations are doing things. That's a whole other discussion, but I see this as more like billionaires buying up the news and social media to intentionally wreck them than in any way providing people what they want. -
@Waterfox Hi, We're currently looking around for a new webbrowser on account of all the "AI" stuff, this statement looks promising, though, if We may, We'd like to hear some more direct statements about where Waterfox as a project stands. In decreasing order of relevance:
What are the politics of Waterfox? In general, but in particular regarding marginalized folks such as black and/or queer individuals? What critiques does the project usually get about its politics and what's the stance on those?
The blogpost focuses on the usage of "AI"/LLM in the context of webbrowser usage, but what is the stance on the technology of "generative" "AI" as a whole? In particular relating to the financial bubble around it, the slave labor necessary to create it, the poisoning of the web, climate destabilization and energy grid degradation that it causes? What about locally ran models?
The blogpost mentions that "LLMs have utility, measurably so" - Which is that?
The Waterfox repository has a folder for the Zed editor, of which a key feature is the integration of LLMs. Is "AI"/LLM produced code used in the Waterfox project? Are "AI"/LLM produced code contributions accepted?
The Waterfox.com 404 page includes the following image: https://www.waterfox.com/_astro/astronaut-nobg.CW-JfQlf_Z125kPS.png - Is this made by an artist, and, if so, whom?
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@Waterfox this is good. I moved to Waterfox because of Firefox' position on AI, and your stance here us the correct one which I believe will stand the test of time.
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@_elena if it's not true now, it will be soon...
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@_elena If you're in a place with temperatures consistently positive, it probably just woke up from winter dormancy. It was maybe in some wall corner inside or around the window and entered the house. I guess if the house is not super sealed, it might go outside whenever it gets the opportunity to look for insects or eggs in the vegetation, or even find something inside the house...
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@_elena Itโs probably been wintering in a crack around a window frame or similar. If your room wasnโt heated before and now it is because youโre staying there, itโll have woken up from its hibernation due to the sudden rise in temperature. Probably best to transfer it somewhere it can find a resting spot where itโs neither unnaturally warm nor too cold until other insects (food) come out in the Spring. Somewhere like a garden shed.
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mah le coccinelle in mancanza di parassiti delle piante mangiano acari e uova di insetti, per cui credo non abbia problemi a sopravvivere in una casa normale. Basta un tappeto su cui abbia dormito un gatto.
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@_elena In some traditions (sorry, don't remember which ones, just heard that and remembered the fact) ladybugs are considered as a spirit of, or a sign from, our loved deceased. ๐
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@_elena don't try to save anything and everything there are trillions of ladybugs they have hive mind hive soul they are immortal. Instead take this as sign from universe about good luck is coming.
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@aeva @lisyarus @jonikorpi It does, but I donโt use it for smooth movement or anything, so thereโs no incremental drift. Itโs mostly for map data which is already approximated via the density grid - it has a max accuracy of about 7cm anyway so losing a few fractions of a cm precision at the map edges isnโt a problem
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@Gorfram fantastic explanation, thank you!!!
My daughter yesterday found a rock that looks just like a potato (the color too!). Maybe I'll spray it with water and put it near the ladybug... also fetching some fresh basil for her.
Thank you thank you thank you!
