@paulk @harld unfortunately, in the UK at least, electricity prices are still tied to gas prices so unless you have solar and battery and a new enough house to use a heat pump, it does affect us. Hopefully those prices will be decoupled in future.

@paulk The claim is untrue at face value, at least for the consumer, since the markets are linked. But there is a point here that the less we depend on fossil energy, the less the oil prices matter to the consumer.

@veronica And that latter point is exactly 'the' point.

@paulk Yeah, I assumed so too, but I work with this so I get the distinction. I suspect most people read "expensive" in the context of what they pay. Regardless, the less we rely on millions of years old goo, the better.

@veronica @paulk

I think the claim is true.

The final price paid by most of us is an average of all energy prices and it raises up as an effect of oil price raise.

However, the price of solar and wind energy don't increase.

@max That's pretty much what I said though. Except that your last sentence isn't true. The price increases, the production cost is less affected.

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@veronica @paulk

Do you think that people having solar panels on their roof will pay something more this month to convert solar radiation hitting their panels into electricity?