My first reaction to DLSS5 can be summarized as “🤮”.

[molecularmusing@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@aras At some point we can just forget about making models, animations, whatever, and ship low-poly soups because some AI shit will do whatever the hell it wants with the pixels, AI-"enhancing" them anyway.

[tomf@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@aras This is clearly garbage, driven by the worst techbro impulses.

[eobet@oldbytes.space]

@aras 4000 euro yassify filter! 🙃

[soulsource@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@aras I just realized what this reminds me of: My old crappy Casio digital camera, which had a non-optional "denoiser" (probably also "AI" based) that smoothed away a lot of details and re-added stuff that wasn't there.

Even with all filters off, everyone looked like they were wearing makeup. I hated that thing (but couldn't afford to buy another camera back then).

[rygorous@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@aras It's fucking absurd. Temporal AA/dyn res is already, let's just say, not uncontroversial, but DLSS "classic" is certainly a state-of-the-art impl of that idea. I'm fine with that. (Temporal artifacts are always bugging me, but sigh, such is life I guess?)

Frame generation was already jumping the shark - making up fake frames while doing nothing about latency (and in fact usually making it worse), no thanks.

This is just... no words.

[lich_silvae@masto.fediverse.games]

@aras Very telling the companies who volunteered to be the examples for this tech are some of the most greedy in the industry right now.

[feral_3d@mastodon.social]

@aras this looks like ass.

[rygorous@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@aras it's not just changing the entire lighting to be higher contrast, deciding "oh it looks like there's fog/haze and puddles of rain in there, let me clean that up for you" (look at what it did in the background!!), it's also _completely_ changing the face and even skin tone

I mean, seriously, WTF

[greenmoonmoon@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@aras huh, are all the characters going to look directly at the camera each time they are facing it? Talk about fourth wall breaking... Also yuk 🤮

[poetaster@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@aras Amazing round of bullshit bingo. I was relieved to be spared images by the wall of marketing bull.

[funkylab@mastodon.social]

@rygorous @aras yeah not even the general direction from which faces are illuminated remains (hogwards legacy cart, wtf); not to mention that a broody character with sunken, dark-ringed eyes isn't supposed to look like an Hugo Boss perfume ad)

[ggn@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@aras I love it how it deforms that "CIGARETTES LOTTO" sign at the top left. 👌👌👌👌 THAT's the AI we all come to love and expect!

[feral_3d@mastodon.social]

@TomF @aras this gives me a headache. Also wow. NODBODY wants this.

[wolfpld@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@molecularmusing @aras This is how VR worked in Lukyanenko's Labirynth trilogy. The first novel was released in 1997, and the setting was era-appropriate, so you had 486 or maybe Pentiums, software rendering, and modems. There was a plot point about needing to stay "inside" for 15 minutes or so, while hunted, because 3 MB of data had to be downloaded.

The VR in the books worked by drawing crude shapes on the screen, while you were in a psychedelic trance that made you see them as a real world.

[rich@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@Feral_3D @TomF @aras lol it just runs roop

[doppioslash@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@aras it’s an abomination nobody needs

[rygorous@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@funkylab @aras or the RE Requiem shot where it goes "oh this needs an ultra-bright white key light for sure" completely changing the mood

[rygorous@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@funkylab @aras or the Starfield one where it goes "moody dank looking spaceship? Nah, imma turn that into the HDR photo furniture catalog version"

[gustav@merveilles.town]

@aras iPhone faceifier https://youtu.be/BzKXF0T75ps?t=718

[rygorous@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@ggn @aras I think that and the different atmospherics might be because they recorded from different runs that randomized environment/atmospherics differently? It seems unlikely it would get rid of all the fog and the people with umbrellas and get the perfect background without them

although it's definitely trying to get rid of fog/haze and shadows in _every_ shot they show, and just adding whole extra key lights for the heck of it