Not everyone can afford a smartphone.
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@zenia @anon_opin There should be options that don't involve computers.
@drahardja@ben @anon_opin @drahardja but I agree
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@zenia @Rastal @anon_opin the web is the most portable format (aside from plain text). Designed decently it works everywhere. The browser should facilitate accessibility. Be device agnostic.
@Tekchip @Rastal @anon_opin 100%
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@vfrmedia @mlanger @anon_opin @dbsalk
Funnily enough, both the automotive repair businesses that existed in my youth in the village where I live have gone down the "shut down and sell off the land for housing" route - in at least one case, with the local council being decidedly displeased about it.
@vfrmedia @mlanger @anon_opin @dbsalk
(and yes, both of those shops were always busy and in high demand)
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Not everyone can afford a smartphone. Stop making it the primary, and sometimes the only, interface for day to day services. It's like when companies move their customer facing information onto Discord. It's shit. Fucking stop it.
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And the selection of smartphones is pretty small if you consider Android and Windows spyware and Apple fascist supporters. -
Not everyone can afford a smartphone. Stop making it the primary, and sometimes the only, interface for day to day services. It's like when companies move their customer facing information onto Discord. It's shit. Fucking stop it.
@anon_opin Also, quit making it hard to reach a human when you have to call a company, "I want to speak to a human" should take you directly to a human. You should not have to say "I want to speak to a pharmacist" or anything like that. Ugh.
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@vfrmedia @mlanger @anon_opin @dbsalk
(and yes, both of those shops were always busy and in high demand)
@only_ohm @mlanger @anon_opin @dbsalk
A lot of automotive business owners end up burning out because their businesses are run so lean they don't have the money to invest in training or new equipment, and the "fun" jobs like performance, tuning and full restos of oldtimers you might see on YouTube are in reality rarer these days as many people with more cash get their cars on leases which forbid such mods, and the rest of the work is keeping peoples old sheds running which can often be thankless as few people are happy paying a garage bill..
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And the selection of smartphones is pretty small if you consider Android and Windows spyware and Apple fascist supporters.@leeloo @anon_opin yup, on top of everything, that’s a real kicker: you can not gate entry to a service through the ownership of a device in an ecosystem that is, for all practical means, the exclusive domain of bad people who do as many bad people things as they can get away with.
participation in society can not depend on you having to buy into either weyland-yutani or cyberdyne systems.
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@dalias @zenia @anon_opin but garbage Androids are much less secure than dumbphones…
@mirabilos @dalias @zenia @anon_opin Yeah but poverty often excludes you from privacy protection, and dumb phones are either old stock or niche products while a mass produced truly bottom of the barrel android can be made for a few dollars and sold for $20 or less. If I had to choose between a dumb phone and a mobicel or whatever, I can bank, scan QR codes, install library and university apps, install an ad blocking browser... It's not a good experience but it does let me interact with society.
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Not everyone can afford a smartphone. Stop making it the primary, and sometimes the only, interface for day to day services. It's like when companies move their customer facing information onto Discord. It's shit. Fucking stop it.
@anon_opin p. I wrote a website for a non-profit once that was directed toward people potentially from very low income areas, so I optimized it for the ancient monitors on the computers in the local libraries. It was rejected because it wasn't fancy and modern enough.
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I deleted my FB, Messenger and Instagram accounts some months ago - one thing I noticed when I was using them is Messenger is *not* reliable for the level of real-time messaging you would need for a business transaction (even compared to SIgnal, SMS or a telephone call).
And FB will equally direct people to their competitors, and in a small country like England has 0 sense of geography/distance (this is a very common flaw with all USA developed social networks)
@vfrmedia @anon_opin @dbsalk EXACTLY! All of this.
I ditched Facebook when I realized that I was not seeing all of the posts shared by the people I followed or "friended." I was seeing a lot of other stuff in random order.
I also got a real close look at how many of the people I actually knew IRL who had Nazi, fascist, or just plain idiotic political leaning.
The only thing that annoys me as a non-Facebook user is that FB Marketplace has pretty much destroyed the utility of craigslist.
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@vfrmedia @mlanger @anon_opin @dbsalk as a business owner (with websites) I tend to try to spend more time running my business than dealing with either social media or my website.
Both are huge burdens that are neccisary to doing business while actively taking time away from the business in which I am trying to engage.
And i say that as someone who is good at these things.
@ajroach42 @vfrmedia @anon_opin @dbsalk I agree with you 100%. I did have social media for my businesses and abandoned it. I still have a website for my jewelry business, but it has become such a hassle to update my work on that site as well as my online shop site that now I just pretty much point everyone to my online shop.
I'd rather run my business, make new inventory, and have a life than try to keep up with social media for the one or two new customers it might generate in a month.
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@vfrmedia @mlanger @anon_opin @dbsalk
Funnily enough, both the automotive repair businesses that existed in my youth in the village where I live have gone down the "shut down and sell off the land for housing" route - in at least one case, with the local council being decidedly displeased about it.
@only_ohm @vfrmedia @anon_opin @dbsalk It's worse in my area. They are closing up orchards and selling the land for data centers.
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@ajroach42 @vfrmedia @anon_opin @dbsalk I agree with you 100%. I did have social media for my businesses and abandoned it. I still have a website for my jewelry business, but it has become such a hassle to update my work on that site as well as my online shop site that now I just pretty much point everyone to my online shop.
I'd rather run my business, make new inventory, and have a life than try to keep up with social media for the one or two new customers it might generate in a month.
@mlanger @ajroach42 @anon_opin @dbsalk
both of you do still update both the indie website and the online shop regularly (accounting for the fact that hand made jewellery and toys aren't made overnight)
and even publish actual telephone numbers and physical addresses, which for many small businesses is becoming rare these days - plus you have genuine, high quality products which are verifiable.I see too many businesses round here (especially linked to social media channels) where the owners are clearly drop shipping same stuff from Amazon and Ebay (maybe with their own branding), they never publish where their business is located, and make it hard to contact their customer service if anything goes wrong with shipments etc..
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