LLM code is the lead pipe of our generation of software engineers.

[jmax@mastodon.social]

@danirabbit - And I personally plan to charge through the nose for it.

[tiberiustribun@mastodon.social]

@danirabbit More like Asbestos. Big chunks will be chopped out expensively by very specialised people but small fibres will always remain and will cause big problems with a very small probability

[tobiasfrech@ijug.social]

@danirabbit Recently we were discussing if it's more like asbestos or like plastic (and microplastics). How much thought should be put into stuff like this before it's rolled out globally? Can we simply go ahead and try to fix the problems later?

[imrehg@fosstodon.org]

@danirabbit definitely keeping my "free range, organic" coding in good health in the meantime!

[omegapolice@hachyderm.io]

@danirabbit More like asbetos, what with all the long festering and then tumors.

[mms@mastodon.bsd.cafe]

@danirabbit OOS? Sure. Proprietary? There's a collective "that won't be my problem; I'll be rich by then!"

[danirabbit@mastodon.online]

It’s the most terminally online fedi bro thing ever to be like, “um actually asbestos is a better metaphor”. Truly who gives a shit dude. Do you really think that is the important thing to focus on here. Jesus Christ. If missing the forest for the trees was an Olympic sport Fedi Bros would take gold every time

[sandorspruit@mastodon.nl]

@danirabbit Well, lead pipes will make you lose your mind first, so what do you expect?

[edsanders2@mstdn.social]

@danirabbit
History is so filled with things that people (to be fair, mostly capitalists) thought were really good ideas that turned out to be disastrous that my head spins.

Lead in pipes, paint, etc. is certainly one, but, of the top of my head,
Radium watch faces
Thalidomide
Indiscriminately spraying DDT (the pictures of kids running after the trucks are truly mind boggling)

I’m sure there’s plenty more, but, apparently, we need to learn the same lesson over and over and over

[finalgirl@blackqueer.life]

@danirabbit OMG the whole correcting some ancillary and irrelevant point to frame an argument that is winnable while ignoring the whole point is such a thing with dudes.

I wrote a whole ass essay about that shit (funnily, I used pipes as a metaphor) because they would try to pull me into argument about the most random shit. I hate it so much.

[diegovsky@bolha.us]

@danirabbit sorry, maybe because English isn't my first language but could you speak out your point about missing the forest for the trees?

Like is the missing part related to trying to find a better analogy when the problem is gigantically enormous ethical implications and death of people

or something else?

[lids@jorts.horse]

@danirabbit lead pipe is a better example anyways, there was no asbestos in “Clue”

[ferricoxide@blahaj.zone]

@danirabbit@mastodon.online

LLMs are useful for, "I know <LANGUAGE> but I'm working in <OTHER_LANGUAGE>, today. How would I write <SNIPPET> in <OTHER_LANGUAGE>" scenarios. And. yeah, often times the responses are like, "that's close but not really as optimized as the reference snippet I gave you".

[sylvie@gabriel.havfruefestning.com]

@lids @danirabbit Lead also (no pun intended) leads to mental health related issues which I thought was well known to the point of being part of insults in the English language as early as the ‘90s and ‘00s. Way more apt a metaphor with ‘AI’ psychosis, stunting basic critical thinking, and other issues created

“Childhood lead exposure has devastating lifelong consequences, as even low-level exposure stunts intelligence and leads to delinquent behavior. However, these consequences may be more extensive than previously thought because childhood lead exposure may adversely affect normal-range personality traits. Personality influences nearly every aspect of human functioning, from well-being to career earnings to longevity, so effects of lead exposure on personality would have far-reaching societal consequences.”

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8307752/

[romain_adm@piaille.fr]

@ferricoxide @danirabbit Agreed. Very usefull when i want to make small scripts but don't have the time to do it

[mmiasma@mastodon.sdf.org]

@danirabbit

And they thought keeping COBOL developers around was a waste of resources. Wait 'til they see the job boom _this_ creates.

[krypt3ia@infosec.exchange]

@danirabbit More like lead paint chips of the 70’s

[human3500@ottawa.place]

@danirabbit It will be quicker to just back out the years of computer updates and start from there, or maybe just start again.

Both options assume the company is still in business which may be doubtful.

[mcneely@indieweb.social]

@lids @danirabbit checkmate asbestos

[lids@jorts.horse]

@McNeely @danirabbit cry harder asbestcels