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  • evan Yes, the domain name can be an excellent solution. However I am looking for a solution where a federated platform, e.g. Mastodon, can recognize an account from another federated platform such as NodeBB or Friendica and vice versa. At the moment if I want to reply to a mastodon user, Mastodon asks me what my mastodon account is. If I give it my NodeBB or Friendica account, Mastodon rejects it. I think that the ActivityPub protocol should solve this problem.

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  • phi maybe this is a social layer problem rather than a technical problem.

    Your issue means a lot in a world where we have amateur hobbyists setting up social network servers and allowing the general public to join. Those hobbyists get overwhelmed or bored after a while, or they do a bad job and your server gets defederated.

    In this case, it makes a lot of sense to move from one server to another. But this is not the only way we could organize the Fediverse.

    Email isn't like that. You (probably?) don't use an email address from a server you found on a list on joinemail.org. You probably, instead, have an email address from your employer or university, and maybe a personal one from a well-known and reliable cloud service. If you're very clever, you may use your own domain for email, and share it with your household or family.

    In those cases, you rarely change email addresses. We have some ad hoc ways to move from one to the other, but they aren't built into the SMTP or IMAP specs. And yet we have a lot of email going around, even after 50 years.

    I think we should be putting our efforts into getting Fediverse services from organizations we have a lot of affinity with, like employers or universities or the city you live in or the post office.

    Another option is using the extremely portable identity system we already have -- domain names. It should be a lot easier to bring your own domain name to a Fediverse server, and to move your data between servers by backing up and restoring and then repointing your domain name to the new server, like you do for blogs. This is really hard right now.

    I think LOLA is doing a good job with online moves, but we should also be encouraging more server developers to support BYOD, and we should encourage Fediverse users to get a domain.

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  • @johnefrancis I have a collection of my favourite smarty-pants comments that would fit that description, so yes.

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  • @konstantin I don’t know of any current flagship instance but I have a test account on plasmatrsp.com

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  • @fedicat is there a "reference" or already updated sharkey instance one can use to test against? I'd like to make sure we support this in TootSDK

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  • @evan can AP handle empty directories?

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  • ActivityPub doesn't represent state; it represents changes in state.

    Git does the same thing (for the most part; there are exceptions). It represents a repository as a series of deltas from state to state.

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  • seems like a lot of mastodon api stuff got fixed over the past year, I'm enabling them in now

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    @julian @js @trwnh I think it's also important to note that having HTML Web pages, JSON API endpoints and rich media all on different domains is a pretty common mid-sized Web app deployment these days.
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    Experimental support for multiple users landed with Ktistec release v2.4.15. "Experimental" means that it works for me, but hasn't seen enough testing for me to call it "ready for production". With that said, it's unlikely you'll lose your data.There are lots of intentional design decisions that fit my vision for Ktistec but may surprise you. Here they are:Every user is an administrator. That doesn't mean users have access to each other's posts and data, but it does mean all users have access to the shared parts of the site—they can change the site description, for example—and they can add new users. So only add people you trust.If you want to add another user, create an account for them and give them their username and password.  There is no self-registration. There are no invitations.Beyond adding a user, there is no support for user management. You can't even boot a user from your site. Users can delete themselves, however.There is no support for content moderation. Only add people you trust.TL;DR Multi-user support in Ktistec is suitable for small teams, families (biological or chosen), and your personal avatars. There are better tools for online communities.Here's the full set of changes:AddedAdd support for multiple user accounts.FixedHide attachments behind the summary. (fixes #125)Mark actors as up after refreshing their profile.#ktistec #fediverse #activitypub #crystallang
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    @silverpill oh, I see. I must have missed the context for the discussion, sorry. :) @technical-discussion @julian @grishka
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    Super stoked that Mastodon is rolling this out after many months of testing. That even a modicum of effort was put in to address the social failings of quote posting (as implemented on X/Twitter) is already a huge win for online public discourse.