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  • I've got an odd request.

    Does anyone have any idea how to get from Australia to the UK, without flying?

    My in-laws are currently stuck on the east coast of Australia. One of them got very sick on a cruise. And long story short. They have been told they cannot fly ever again. It's too risky for what has happened, they're in the ICU - recovering, feeling better, but cannot fly ever again.

    Hubs might have to go over there for a couple of months to help them out (his studio has a studio in the city they are in. This is the easy part).

    They are looking at getting on another cruise ship, but the next one is in March, and if they miss that. They're stuck there even longer.

    So, I am making a request to see if anyone knows if there is any other possible way to get them back to the UK without using planes.

    The in-laws are in their late 70s, so there may be some limitations (they are obviously not going to be fit to help out on a catamaran or something).

    Please share!

    @Teaceratops I know nothing firsthand, and I apologize if this is useless. But this web site claims to organize travel by cargo ship, and the very first page I saw had a big graphic that said “Travel from UK to Australia by Cargo Ship”.

    I hope this is helpful.

    https://cargoholidays.com/cargo-ship-travel-cheap-from-europe-to-any-destination

  • I've got an odd request.

    Does anyone have any idea how to get from Australia to the UK, without flying?

    My in-laws are currently stuck on the east coast of Australia. One of them got very sick on a cruise. And long story short. They have been told they cannot fly ever again. It's too risky for what has happened, they're in the ICU - recovering, feeling better, but cannot fly ever again.

    Hubs might have to go over there for a couple of months to help them out (his studio has a studio in the city they are in. This is the easy part).

    They are looking at getting on another cruise ship, but the next one is in March, and if they miss that. They're stuck there even longer.

    So, I am making a request to see if anyone knows if there is any other possible way to get them back to the UK without using planes.

    The in-laws are in their late 70s, so there may be some limitations (they are obviously not going to be fit to help out on a catamaran or something).

    Please share!

    @Teaceratops last year, @gianluca_grimalda made it from Papau new Guinea back to Italy by freighter etc

  • I've got an odd request.

    Does anyone have any idea how to get from Australia to the UK, without flying?

    My in-laws are currently stuck on the east coast of Australia. One of them got very sick on a cruise. And long story short. They have been told they cannot fly ever again. It's too risky for what has happened, they're in the ICU - recovering, feeling better, but cannot fly ever again.

    Hubs might have to go over there for a couple of months to help them out (his studio has a studio in the city they are in. This is the easy part).

    They are looking at getting on another cruise ship, but the next one is in March, and if they miss that. They're stuck there even longer.

    So, I am making a request to see if anyone knows if there is any other possible way to get them back to the UK without using planes.

    The in-laws are in their late 70s, so there may be some limitations (they are obviously not going to be fit to help out on a catamaran or something).

    Please share!

    @Teaceratops

    Some merchant vessels can take a few fee paying passengers. The vessels that do this are never oil tankers, but container ships often have space for a few passenger cabins. It’s pretty luxury travel, so not cheap. You’d need to check with a company like Maersk if they have a suitable ship going Australia to UK and dates.

  • I've got an odd request.

    Does anyone have any idea how to get from Australia to the UK, without flying?

    My in-laws are currently stuck on the east coast of Australia. One of them got very sick on a cruise. And long story short. They have been told they cannot fly ever again. It's too risky for what has happened, they're in the ICU - recovering, feeling better, but cannot fly ever again.

    Hubs might have to go over there for a couple of months to help them out (his studio has a studio in the city they are in. This is the easy part).

    They are looking at getting on another cruise ship, but the next one is in March, and if they miss that. They're stuck there even longer.

    So, I am making a request to see if anyone knows if there is any other possible way to get them back to the UK without using planes.

    The in-laws are in their late 70s, so there may be some limitations (they are obviously not going to be fit to help out on a catamaran or something).

    Please share!

    @Teaceratops lot of good suggestions downthread, but honestly I think the surface travel options that would get them out before March are quite grueling for anyone whose health is delicate. Best option might be to recover on the east coast until March (hopefully they've left the hospital within that timeframe) and join the cruise

  • I've got an odd request.

    Does anyone have any idea how to get from Australia to the UK, without flying?

    My in-laws are currently stuck on the east coast of Australia. One of them got very sick on a cruise. And long story short. They have been told they cannot fly ever again. It's too risky for what has happened, they're in the ICU - recovering, feeling better, but cannot fly ever again.

    Hubs might have to go over there for a couple of months to help them out (his studio has a studio in the city they are in. This is the easy part).

    They are looking at getting on another cruise ship, but the next one is in March, and if they miss that. They're stuck there even longer.

    So, I am making a request to see if anyone knows if there is any other possible way to get them back to the UK without using planes.

    The in-laws are in their late 70s, so there may be some limitations (they are obviously not going to be fit to help out on a catamaran or something).

    Please share!

    @Teaceratops Take a boat. Might have to learn sailing, first. Heh-heh. There are freighter companies who accept passengers. It's rather a nice way to travel, although obviously berths are limited.

  • @Teaceratops @krans @stonebear2 @DamonHD it is most definitely possible to take the train from Vancouver from Montreal, just takes 4 days.

    I would suspect that New Zealand is harder to leave than Australia. And the health treaties may be worse (or better) for UK citizens --- I don't know.

    It has to be a boat, which basically seems to mean a cruise ship these days. (Another thing about cargo vessels is that they don't have doctors, so probably not actually an option even if it were possible to get a ticket).

    @va2lam @Teaceratops @krans @stonebear2 @DamonHD Yeah, when I was looking into one company (Hamburg to South Africa) the passengers had to be under a certain age limit and have a physician's certificate that they are healthy enough to travel for a month without medical care. Also, cargo ships do not take care of passengers' dietary needs (but do stock the onboard shop with their preferred brands of cigarettes) 🙄

  • I've got an odd request.

    Does anyone have any idea how to get from Australia to the UK, without flying?

    My in-laws are currently stuck on the east coast of Australia. One of them got very sick on a cruise. And long story short. They have been told they cannot fly ever again. It's too risky for what has happened, they're in the ICU - recovering, feeling better, but cannot fly ever again.

    Hubs might have to go over there for a couple of months to help them out (his studio has a studio in the city they are in. This is the easy part).

    They are looking at getting on another cruise ship, but the next one is in March, and if they miss that. They're stuck there even longer.

    So, I am making a request to see if anyone knows if there is any other possible way to get them back to the UK without using planes.

    The in-laws are in their late 70s, so there may be some limitations (they are obviously not going to be fit to help out on a catamaran or something).

    Please share!

    @Teaceratops@peoplemaking.games maybe the british embassy to australia can help? this seems to me to be in their purview

  • I've got an odd request.

    Does anyone have any idea how to get from Australia to the UK, without flying?

    My in-laws are currently stuck on the east coast of Australia. One of them got very sick on a cruise. And long story short. They have been told they cannot fly ever again. It's too risky for what has happened, they're in the ICU - recovering, feeling better, but cannot fly ever again.

    Hubs might have to go over there for a couple of months to help them out (his studio has a studio in the city they are in. This is the easy part).

    They are looking at getting on another cruise ship, but the next one is in March, and if they miss that. They're stuck there even longer.

    So, I am making a request to see if anyone knows if there is any other possible way to get them back to the UK without using planes.

    The in-laws are in their late 70s, so there may be some limitations (they are obviously not going to be fit to help out on a catamaran or something).

    Please share!

    @Teaceratops Hi,

    I'm not really in a position to be of much help, but...

    Have you looked into Cargo Cruising? Its where your parents could travel as passengers on Cargo Ships. The Medical situation would possibly complicate matters -- as much as, if not more than, a cruise ship -- but its a feasible method of long distance slow travel.

    From memory of a trip a friend took to Hong Kong, the route would be $AUSTRALIA (If they could get to Brisbane, that would make the sea travel shorter) to Singapore, then Singapore-Suez, finally Suez-Southampton or similar commercial port.

    It all takes about 4 weeks from Singapore, so its a long term commitment, and the amenities, while perfectly functional, are basic.

  • I've got an odd request.

    Does anyone have any idea how to get from Australia to the UK, without flying?

    My in-laws are currently stuck on the east coast of Australia. One of them got very sick on a cruise. And long story short. They have been told they cannot fly ever again. It's too risky for what has happened, they're in the ICU - recovering, feeling better, but cannot fly ever again.

    Hubs might have to go over there for a couple of months to help them out (his studio has a studio in the city they are in. This is the easy part).

    They are looking at getting on another cruise ship, but the next one is in March, and if they miss that. They're stuck there even longer.

    So, I am making a request to see if anyone knows if there is any other possible way to get them back to the UK without using planes.

    The in-laws are in their late 70s, so there may be some limitations (they are obviously not going to be fit to help out on a catamaran or something).

    Please share!

    @Teaceratops A problem worthy of Jules Verne.

  • @bnut @Teaceratops “can’t fly ever again” is not the type of statement that admits “but it’s ok in short flights actually” as an addendum.

    I’m betting blood clot, because it happened to a relative of mine, but honestly it’s not the point.

  • I've got an odd request.

    Does anyone have any idea how to get from Australia to the UK, without flying?

    My in-laws are currently stuck on the east coast of Australia. One of them got very sick on a cruise. And long story short. They have been told they cannot fly ever again. It's too risky for what has happened, they're in the ICU - recovering, feeling better, but cannot fly ever again.

    Hubs might have to go over there for a couple of months to help them out (his studio has a studio in the city they are in. This is the easy part).

    They are looking at getting on another cruise ship, but the next one is in March, and if they miss that. They're stuck there even longer.

    So, I am making a request to see if anyone knows if there is any other possible way to get them back to the UK without using planes.

    The in-laws are in their late 70s, so there may be some limitations (they are obviously not going to be fit to help out on a catamaran or something).

    Please share!

    @Teaceratops

    I'd look at intermediate destinations and try to convert a lot of that travel to land. If they can get to India or china, train travel to get a lot closer to home becomes viable.

    In the past I'd have suggested California, then cross-country to New York and the QM2 to the UK, but I would avoid the US for now for reasons.

    Honestly, it sounds like their best bet is don't miss the March cruise. Best of luck.

  • I've got an odd request.

    Does anyone have any idea how to get from Australia to the UK, without flying?

    My in-laws are currently stuck on the east coast of Australia. One of them got very sick on a cruise. And long story short. They have been told they cannot fly ever again. It's too risky for what has happened, they're in the ICU - recovering, feeling better, but cannot fly ever again.

    Hubs might have to go over there for a couple of months to help them out (his studio has a studio in the city they are in. This is the easy part).

    They are looking at getting on another cruise ship, but the next one is in March, and if they miss that. They're stuck there even longer.

    So, I am making a request to see if anyone knows if there is any other possible way to get them back to the UK without using planes.

    The in-laws are in their late 70s, so there may be some limitations (they are obviously not going to be fit to help out on a catamaran or something).

    Please share!

    @Teaceratops check out cargo ships. I read somewhere, you can travel with the crew quite comfortably, just without much entertainment.

  • I've got an odd request.

    Does anyone have any idea how to get from Australia to the UK, without flying?

    My in-laws are currently stuck on the east coast of Australia. One of them got very sick on a cruise. And long story short. They have been told they cannot fly ever again. It's too risky for what has happened, they're in the ICU - recovering, feeling better, but cannot fly ever again.

    Hubs might have to go over there for a couple of months to help them out (his studio has a studio in the city they are in. This is the easy part).

    They are looking at getting on another cruise ship, but the next one is in March, and if they miss that. They're stuck there even longer.

    So, I am making a request to see if anyone knows if there is any other possible way to get them back to the UK without using planes.

    The in-laws are in their late 70s, so there may be some limitations (they are obviously not going to be fit to help out on a catamaran or something).

    Please share!

    @Teaceratops I was working in Germany once with a Canadian colleague. He had a massive heart attack, was told he couldnt fly home.

    That's when I learned that cargo ships sometimes have passenger cabins on them - he sailed back on an oil tanker or something.

    Also, if it hasn't been suggested already, has someone spoken with the embassy?

  • I've got an odd request.

    Does anyone have any idea how to get from Australia to the UK, without flying?

    My in-laws are currently stuck on the east coast of Australia. One of them got very sick on a cruise. And long story short. They have been told they cannot fly ever again. It's too risky for what has happened, they're in the ICU - recovering, feeling better, but cannot fly ever again.

    Hubs might have to go over there for a couple of months to help them out (his studio has a studio in the city they are in. This is the easy part).

    They are looking at getting on another cruise ship, but the next one is in March, and if they miss that. They're stuck there even longer.

    So, I am making a request to see if anyone knows if there is any other possible way to get them back to the UK without using planes.

    The in-laws are in their late 70s, so there may be some limitations (they are obviously not going to be fit to help out on a catamaran or something).

    Please share!

    @Teaceratops I might be stating the obvious: it might be useful to figure out which part of flying they can't do. For example, would a short flight _at low cabin altitude_ be also out of question?
  • I've got an odd request.

    Does anyone have any idea how to get from Australia to the UK, without flying?

    My in-laws are currently stuck on the east coast of Australia. One of them got very sick on a cruise. And long story short. They have been told they cannot fly ever again. It's too risky for what has happened, they're in the ICU - recovering, feeling better, but cannot fly ever again.

    Hubs might have to go over there for a couple of months to help them out (his studio has a studio in the city they are in. This is the easy part).

    They are looking at getting on another cruise ship, but the next one is in March, and if they miss that. They're stuck there even longer.

    So, I am making a request to see if anyone knows if there is any other possible way to get them back to the UK without using planes.

    The in-laws are in their late 70s, so there may be some limitations (they are obviously not going to be fit to help out on a catamaran or something).

    Please share!

    @Teaceratops

    I can't find my notes for it, but I once looked into travel via cargo ship. Turns out it's a thing and there are several travel agencies who specialize in booking them.

  • I've got an odd request.

    Does anyone have any idea how to get from Australia to the UK, without flying?

    My in-laws are currently stuck on the east coast of Australia. One of them got very sick on a cruise. And long story short. They have been told they cannot fly ever again. It's too risky for what has happened, they're in the ICU - recovering, feeling better, but cannot fly ever again.

    Hubs might have to go over there for a couple of months to help them out (his studio has a studio in the city they are in. This is the easy part).

    They are looking at getting on another cruise ship, but the next one is in March, and if they miss that. They're stuck there even longer.

    So, I am making a request to see if anyone knows if there is any other possible way to get them back to the UK without using planes.

    The in-laws are in their late 70s, so there may be some limitations (they are obviously not going to be fit to help out on a catamaran or something).

    Please share!

    @Teaceratops

    Cruise ships are, unfortunately, pretty much the name of the game, and yes, they have long gaps in their schedules for transoceanic trips. Before 2020, freighter travel (essentially, every cargo ship has an "owner's cabin", and when that's not occupied they can be hired out) was also an option, but that totally went away during the pandemic lockdowns and has been VERY slow to come back.

    I had been planning on taking a trans-Atlantic freighter trip in 2020. It would have been my first.

  • We have looked at them leaving different ports in Australia, there's a faster cruise from Perth, but it is actually impossible for them to get to Perth from where they are without a flight. So, it's got to be from a port on the east coast of Australia.

    @Teaceratops

    That's surprising. As far as I can tell, all the major ports on the Australian east coast are connected to Perth by a rail link.

    This site also details how to get from Britain to India by surface travel, although I don't know if ships between Australia and India are more frequent than those to Europe via Suez.

    https://www.seat61.com/Australia.htm

  • I've got an odd request.

    Does anyone have any idea how to get from Australia to the UK, without flying?

    My in-laws are currently stuck on the east coast of Australia. One of them got very sick on a cruise. And long story short. They have been told they cannot fly ever again. It's too risky for what has happened, they're in the ICU - recovering, feeling better, but cannot fly ever again.

    Hubs might have to go over there for a couple of months to help them out (his studio has a studio in the city they are in. This is the easy part).

    They are looking at getting on another cruise ship, but the next one is in March, and if they miss that. They're stuck there even longer.

    So, I am making a request to see if anyone knows if there is any other possible way to get them back to the UK without using planes.

    The in-laws are in their late 70s, so there may be some limitations (they are obviously not going to be fit to help out on a catamaran or something).

    Please share!

    @Teaceratops I would also check out possibilities from the port of Darwin via Indonesia / Singapore. The distances are shorter than from Perth. This might be easier to arrange and less of a risk healthwise.

  • I've got an odd request.

    Does anyone have any idea how to get from Australia to the UK, without flying?

    My in-laws are currently stuck on the east coast of Australia. One of them got very sick on a cruise. And long story short. They have been told they cannot fly ever again. It's too risky for what has happened, they're in the ICU - recovering, feeling better, but cannot fly ever again.

    Hubs might have to go over there for a couple of months to help them out (his studio has a studio in the city they are in. This is the easy part).

    They are looking at getting on another cruise ship, but the next one is in March, and if they miss that. They're stuck there even longer.

    So, I am making a request to see if anyone knows if there is any other possible way to get them back to the UK without using planes.

    The in-laws are in their late 70s, so there may be some limitations (they are obviously not going to be fit to help out on a catamaran or something).

    Please share!

    @Teaceratops All cargo ships have spare bedrooms. They can be booked and the food is ok too.
    One big problem, it's a cargo ship and not a cruise ship. That means that the boaty isn't as stable. Cargo doesn't care. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_motions

  • I've got an odd request.

    Does anyone have any idea how to get from Australia to the UK, without flying?

    My in-laws are currently stuck on the east coast of Australia. One of them got very sick on a cruise. And long story short. They have been told they cannot fly ever again. It's too risky for what has happened, they're in the ICU - recovering, feeling better, but cannot fly ever again.

    Hubs might have to go over there for a couple of months to help them out (his studio has a studio in the city they are in. This is the easy part).

    They are looking at getting on another cruise ship, but the next one is in March, and if they miss that. They're stuck there even longer.

    So, I am making a request to see if anyone knows if there is any other possible way to get them back to the UK without using planes.

    The in-laws are in their late 70s, so there may be some limitations (they are obviously not going to be fit to help out on a catamaran or something).

    Please share!

    @Teaceratops

    No flights mean boat to China, train to India, and whatever they can find from India back to Europe. Looking at probably a month of travel time.


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