This is anecdotal, but every time I say I have a bad feeling about something
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@RegGuy sorry, looks like a dead end
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Youโre mad because youโre so deeply invested and wired into something that me yelling that the emperor is naked makes you want to fight.
@hacks4pancakes so much this. It is like people are too weak to admit sunk cost fallacy outside of business contexts. I want to grab them by the shoulders DEAR DERP - IT IS IS YOU NOW
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@kauer But why do they attack the person that's telling the fear they have instead of addressing the fear itself? Why shoot the messenger? This will change nothing.
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Youโre mad because youโre so deeply invested and wired into something that me yelling that the emperor is naked makes you want to fight.
The one I havenโt won out on because thankfully the other shoe hasnโt dropped is insecure child tracking apps but omg
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The one I havenโt won out on because thankfully the other shoe hasnโt dropped is insecure child tracking apps but omg
@hacks4pancakes Yeah. Somebody bad is gonna... yeah.
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@hacks4pancakes Yeah. Somebody bad is gonna... yeah.
@jmax hate this so much
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@hacks4pancakes Decades ago, this company was claiming to have invented the operating system that would work across all computer platforms, Micro, Mini, and Mainframe. They hyped it, and it was called OS-2 (of all things, unrelated to MS OS/2). A friend who was an investor asked me to look at it. I explained in detail why it was not a good investment, and he didn't invest $50K. I was laughed at and told I was wrong.
Where is OS-2? A money pit that vanished a year later.
@RegGuy @hacks4pancakes Last night, my uncle (investor/manager, zero computing background) called me saying he wants to install OpenClaw on his machine (and "to automate my company") with a lot of FOMO energy. He asked me because he didn't have the skill to figure out how to install that (and yet still thinks it is fine to let it "automate" his company, unmaintained?) I honestly don't know how to dissuade him.
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This is anecdotal, but every time I say I have a bad feeling about something
(See: Elon and companies, alleged grassy knoll ear shots, LLMs, cryptocurrency, Gamergate, project 2025)
And I get tech people yelling at me in the comments,
Within two years Iโm proven extremely right.
@hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange I really hope I'm wrong about the bad feelings I have right now but I have no reason to think we'd be that lucky
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Iโm kinda just over people yelling at me. The more people get super angry about me saying something is fishy as hell, the more south itโs going.
@hacks4pancakes the curse of Cassandra. :(
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@hacks4pancakes This. And then thereโs the massive FOMO every time bad but shiny tech gets hyped. Tech people loooove shiny things, and FOMO is the mind killer.
@schrotthaufen @hacks4pancakes Something can be terrible and still become somewhat useful and unavoidably ubiquitous. Smart Phones are a great example.
I wish I didn't need one to live in modern society, but if I'm going to need one I want to know how they work and what fun tricks they can do. That's sort of how I see LLMs. Maybe I'm just old and tired of yelling at clouds.
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@RegGuy @hacks4pancakes Last night, my uncle (investor/manager, zero computing background) called me saying he wants to install OpenClaw on his machine (and "to automate my company") with a lot of FOMO energy. He asked me because he didn't have the skill to figure out how to install that (and yet still thinks it is fine to let it "automate" his company, unmaintained?) I honestly don't know how to dissuade him.
@lesley @RegGuy @hacks4pancakes Don't. He'll find out eventually.
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Iโm kinda just over people yelling at me. The more people get super angry about me saying something is fishy as hell, the more south itโs going.
@hacks4pancakes I especially dislike it when people yell at you!
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@RegGuy @hacks4pancakes Last night, my uncle (investor/manager, zero computing background) called me saying he wants to install OpenClaw on his machine (and "to automate my company") with a lot of FOMO energy. He asked me because he didn't have the skill to figure out how to install that (and yet still thinks it is fine to let it "automate" his company, unmaintained?) I honestly don't know how to dissuade him.
@lesley @RegGuy @hacks4pancakes
"I am uncomfortable helping you do something that's a very bad idea. I'm sorry, but you're going to have to find someone else for that." -
@lesley @RegGuy @hacks4pancakes
"I am uncomfortable helping you do something that's a very bad idea. I'm sorry, but you're going to have to find someone else for that."@jmax @RegGuy @hacks4pancakes I basically said that if he want to let his computer and his company's data hacker, I will help him
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The one I havenโt won out on because thankfully the other shoe hasnโt dropped is insecure child tracking apps but omg
@hacks4pancakes Cognitive dissonance is a bitch and a half.
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This is anecdotal, but every time I say I have a bad feeling about something
(See: Elon and companies, alleged grassy knoll ear shots, LLMs, cryptocurrency, Gamergate, project 2025)
And I get tech people yelling at me in the comments,
Within two years Iโm proven extremely right.
@hacks4pancakes I share this curse of dystopia future-vision
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@jmax @RegGuy @hacks4pancakes I basically said that if he want to let his computer and his company's data hacker, I will help him
@lesley @RegGuy @hacks4pancakes Well, yeah, there's always the "Just give me all your private data and I'll sell it. We can cut out the middleman." approach.
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Yes, even the collapse of American free speech and democratic government because deep American exceptionalism and trust in stability is ๐ฏ๐ฏ๐ฏ lifelong brainwashing too.
@hacks4pancakes At least this time, the things I get called "paranoid" (and worse) for concluding are revealing themselves more quickly.
Less social pain for me... ๐ค
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@hacks4pancakes as a Brit who used to work in US tech and lived in Seattle years ago, I just assumed people got angry when I pointed this out because I was an outsider...
A bit like Baz Luhrmann's epic song, Sunscreen, every word of this thread rings true ๐ฏ
@not_a_label Pointing it out *makes* you an outsider. @hacks4pancakes
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This is anecdotal, but every time I say I have a bad feeling about something
(See: Elon and companies, alleged grassy knoll ear shots, LLMs, cryptocurrency, Gamergate, project 2025)
And I get tech people yelling at me in the comments,
Within two years Iโm proven extremely right.
thanks for expressing my feelings
for me it were things like
Java
EJB
XML
Cryptocurrencies
AIand a few others.
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@levelbot I feel good about myself and this number.
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@reiver@mastodon.social knowing people in general... They will get more bug reports if they said "whom"
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@reiver I've heard John Mastodon personally picks those out of a tall hat, for each user, individually. What a great man.
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I'm writing this in English.
Not because English is my first languageโit isn't. I'm writing this in English because if I wrote it in Korean, the people I'm addressing would run it through an outdated translator, misread it, and respond to something I never said. The responsibility for that mistranslation would fall on me. It always does.
This is the thing Eugen Rochko's post misses, despite its good intentions.
@Gargron@mastodon.social argues that LLMs are no substitute for human translators, and that people who think otherwise don't actually rely on translation. He's right about some of this. A machine-translated novel is not the same as one rendered by a skilled human translator. But the argument rests on a premise that only makes sense from a certain position: that translation is primarily about quality, about the aesthetic experience of reading literature in another language.
For many of us, translation is first about access.
The professional translation market doesn't scale to cover everything. It never has. What gets translatedโand into which languagesโfollows the logic of cultural hegemony. Works from dominant Western languages flow outward, translated into everything. Works from East Asian languages trickle in, selectively, slowly, on someone else's schedule. The asymmetry isn't incidental; it's structural.
@Gargron@mastodon.social notes, fairly, that machine translation existed decades before LLMs. But this is only half the story, and which half matters depends entirely on which languages you're talking about. European language pairs were reasonably serviceable with older tools. KoreanโEnglish, JapaneseโEnglish, ChineseโEnglish? Genuinely usable translation for these pairs arrived with the LLM era. Treating โmachine translationโ as a monolithic technology with a uniform history erases the experience of everyone whose language sits far from the Indo-European center.
There's also something uncomfortable in the framing of the button-press thought experiment: โI would erase LLMs even if it took machine translation with it.โ For someone whose language has always been peripheral, that button looks very different. It's not an abstract philosophical position; it's a statement about whose access to information is expendable.
I want to be clear: none of this is an argument that LLMs are good, or that the harms @Gargron@mastodon.social describes aren't real. They are. But a critique of AI doesn't become more universal by ignoring whose languages have always been on the margins. If anything, a serious critique of AI's political economy should be more attentive to those asymmetries, not less.
The fact that I'm writing this in English, carefully, so it won't be misreadโthat's not incidental to my argument. That is my argument.
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I've been checking out @inkwell , the new journaling app on the Fediverse. It looks absolutely great. Fantastic work by @stanton. If you'd like to follow me there, check out @evan@inkwell.social.
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There is the complete list that Mastodon is suggesting I (potentially) follow.
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Moaner's CRYING TOWELS
only 15ยข from Johnson Smith and Co (1951)
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It's "Whom To Follow" not "Who To Follow".
I.e., WHOM not WHO.
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Also, I wonder how Mastodon picked those choices to me to (potentially) follow.
