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  4. US farmers are saying they "just need temporary help, until things get better."Here's the thing.

US farmers are saying they "just need temporary help, until things get better."Here's the thing.

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  • Sarah Taberundefined Sarah Taber

    To review: there are only two paths forward for a lot of US farmers.

    The "grow something else" option is anathema to a lot of them, that means a whole lot of US farmers are banking on the other path.

    Get bailouts forever.

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    I'm sure they're not putting it in those words to themselves. But... that is the only other option.

    So now we need to talk about how the US is emerging into a dictatorship right now, and how agriculture has thrown in its lot with that happening.

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    • Sarah Taberundefined Sarah Taber

      I'm sure they're not putting it in those words to themselves. But... that is the only other option.

      So now we need to talk about how the US is emerging into a dictatorship right now, and how agriculture has thrown in its lot with that happening.

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      When Trump bailed out farmers in his first term, that was executive branch orders. Congress had nothing to do with it.

      So already setting up a pattern of "Who cares about checks & balances? Or how Congress is supposed to be in charge of the US's budget? I'm gonna rule unilaterally. Like a king. And you support me, so I like you, and here's your money."

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      • Sarah Taberundefined Sarah Taber

        When Trump bailed out farmers in his first term, that was executive branch orders. Congress had nothing to do with it.

        So already setting up a pattern of "Who cares about checks & balances? Or how Congress is supposed to be in charge of the US's budget? I'm gonna rule unilaterally. Like a king. And you support me, so I like you, and here's your money."

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        And that's what I'm seeing this time around as well.

        Congress can stop the trade war, AND budget bailouts.

        But the farm sector isn't even bothering to ask Congress for anything.

        It's all pleas, for money, directed towards Trump himself.

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        • Sarah Taberundefined Sarah Taber

          And that's what I'm seeing this time around as well.

          Congress can stop the trade war, AND budget bailouts.

          But the farm sector isn't even bothering to ask Congress for anything.

          It's all pleas, for money, directed towards Trump himself.

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          And the farm sector won't criticize Trump or his actions. It's not "Hey Trump your policies stink." It's "We love you but this'll be hard for us…Money please!"

          That's the dictatorship playbook.

          Kiss the dear leader's ring. Support him. Expect kickbacks.

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          • Sarah Taberundefined Sarah Taber

            And the farm sector won't criticize Trump or his actions. It's not "Hey Trump your policies stink." It's "We love you but this'll be hard for us…Money please!"

            That's the dictatorship playbook.

            Kiss the dear leader's ring. Support him. Expect kickbacks.

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            And most of all, ignore Congress. Do not even acknowledge that there are supposed to be checks & balances protecting you. That would ruin the illusion of an all-powerful strongman on top- that you desperately want to be real.

            Because no sane country, where leaders are accountable to voters, would ever decide to bail out people who openly & freely voted to destroy their own business.

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            • Sarah Taberundefined Sarah Taber

              And most of all, ignore Congress. Do not even acknowledge that there are supposed to be checks & balances protecting you. That would ruin the illusion of an all-powerful strongman on top- that you desperately want to be real.

              Because no sane country, where leaders are accountable to voters, would ever decide to bail out people who openly & freely voted to destroy their own business.

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              The farm sector chose to help bring Trump to power. They chose to engage with him as you would an all-powerful dictator.

              Because they saw that making him one is a good way to get easy money.

              I know we have a folklore of farms being, like, the traditional beating heart of democracy. A nd that's such a nice idea!

              But this is what's really happening.

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              • Sarah Taberundefined Sarah Taber

                The farm sector chose to help bring Trump to power. They chose to engage with him as you would an all-powerful dictator.

                Because they saw that making him one is a good way to get easy money.

                I know we have a folklore of farms being, like, the traditional beating heart of democracy. A nd that's such a nice idea!

                But this is what's really happening.

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                We need to see how much work the farm sector's doing to undermine our republic. We need to name this for what it is.

                I want farmers to think very carefully about if this is the kind of country we want to leave for our kids.

                And if it's not, we need to wake up and do the work it takes to live in a free country.

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                • Sarah Taberundefined Sarah Taber

                  We need to see how much work the farm sector's doing to undermine our republic. We need to name this for what it is.

                  I want farmers to think very carefully about if this is the kind of country we want to leave for our kids.

                  And if it's not, we need to wake up and do the work it takes to live in a free country.

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                  "Freedom isn't free" isn't just for soldiers.

                  It's for all of us.

                  And sometimes it just means "If you're lucky enough to be entrusted with land, do a good job with it.

                  "Don't just shoot yourself in the foot & grovel for refunds."

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                  • Sarah Taberundefined Sarah Taber

                    "Freedom isn't free" isn't just for soldiers.

                    It's for all of us.

                    And sometimes it just means "If you're lucky enough to be entrusted with land, do a good job with it.

                    "Don't just shoot yourself in the foot & grovel for refunds."

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                    Well that's enough from me for now.

                    Tonight's farm fact: sometimes entire sectors of the economy jump into bed with dictators, and agriculture is no exception.

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                    • Sarah Taberundefined Sarah Taber

                      The farm sector chose to help bring Trump to power. They chose to engage with him as you would an all-powerful dictator.

                      Because they saw that making him one is a good way to get easy money.

                      I know we have a folklore of farms being, like, the traditional beating heart of democracy. A nd that's such a nice idea!

                      But this is what's really happening.

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                      @sarahtaber

                      The "easy money" aspect is what endears Trump to the corrupt.

                      These aren't small family farms. They are international agribusinesses.

                      The corrupt Batista Brothers of Brazil got a bailout courtesy the American taxpayers while smaller operations were scooped up cheap by billionaires.

                      https://www.newsweek.com/trump-administration-farmers-bailout-brazil-brothers-1427346

                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/this-foreign-meat-company-got-us-tax-money-now-it-wants-to-conquer-america/2019/11/04/854836ae-eae5-11e9-9306-47cb0324fd44_story.html

                      Trump rewards his agribusiness donors like Ron Cameron as well as his foreign billionaire supporters like the Batistas
                      https://www.pressherald.com/2019/05/16/company-owned-by-brazilian-crooks-received-62-million-in-trump-bailout-cash-meant-for-struggling-u-s-farmers/

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                      • Nicole Parsonsundefined Nicole Parsons

                        @sarahtaber

                        The "easy money" aspect is what endears Trump to the corrupt.

                        These aren't small family farms. They are international agribusinesses.

                        The corrupt Batista Brothers of Brazil got a bailout courtesy the American taxpayers while smaller operations were scooped up cheap by billionaires.

                        https://www.newsweek.com/trump-administration-farmers-bailout-brazil-brothers-1427346

                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/this-foreign-meat-company-got-us-tax-money-now-it-wants-to-conquer-america/2019/11/04/854836ae-eae5-11e9-9306-47cb0324fd44_story.html

                        Trump rewards his agribusiness donors like Ron Cameron as well as his foreign billionaire supporters like the Batistas
                        https://www.pressherald.com/2019/05/16/company-owned-by-brazilian-crooks-received-62-million-in-trump-bailout-cash-meant-for-struggling-u-s-farmers/

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                        I suspect that one of the corrupt bargains between Trump & large agribusiness is a solution to their "labor problem". Koch Network believes it is an outrage to pay for labor, never mind a fair & livable wage.

                        Entities like Koch Poultry in Mississippi have regularly scheduled ICE raids on paydays.
                        https://www.mississippifreepress.org/feds-indict-poultry-execs-after-2019-mississippi-ice-raids-no-charges-for-koch-peco/

                        https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us/allegations-of-labor-abuses-dogged-mississippi-plant-years-before-immigration-ra-idUSKCN1UZ1OS/

                        They are expanding because they look forward to a profitable future with unpaid labor from detainees & corrupt convict leasing schemes.

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                        • Nicole Parsonsundefined Nicole Parsons

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                          I suspect that one of the corrupt bargains between Trump & large agribusiness is a solution to their "labor problem". Koch Network believes it is an outrage to pay for labor, never mind a fair & livable wage.

                          Entities like Koch Poultry in Mississippi have regularly scheduled ICE raids on paydays.
                          https://www.mississippifreepress.org/feds-indict-poultry-execs-after-2019-mississippi-ice-raids-no-charges-for-koch-peco/

                          https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us/allegations-of-labor-abuses-dogged-mississippi-plant-years-before-immigration-ra-idUSKCN1UZ1OS/

                          They are expanding because they look forward to a profitable future with unpaid labor from detainees & corrupt convict leasing schemes.

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                          https://www.newsandsentinel.com/news/business/2024/12/alabama-profits-off-prisoners-who-work-at-mcdonalds-but-deems-them-too-dangerous-for-parole/

                          https://www.al.com/news/2024/12/alabama-says-they-are-safe-enough-for-kfc-but-too-dangerous-for-parole.html

                          https://www.agriculturedive.com/news/koch-foods-invests-145m-to-expand-and-rehab-mississippi-chicken-plant/734170/

                          The private prison industry paid handsome bribes... ahem campaign donations... to get slave labor enacted nationwide.
                          https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-investigations/private-prison-behemoth-is-first-corporation-to-max-out-to-trump/

                          https://www.teenvogue.com/story/private-prisons-trump-what-to-know

                          https://abcnews.go.com/US/private-prison-firms-contributed-1m-trumps-reelection-now/story?id=116046776

                          https://apnews.com/article/prison-to-plate-inmate-labor-investigation-c6f0eb4747963283316e494eadf08c4e

                          With a prison labor, you can treat agricultural workers however you like

                          https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/14/trump-administration-epa-prison-company-donations

                          https://www.epi.org/publication/rooted-racism-prison-labor/

                          https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/usa-more-than-500-businesses-including-mcdonalds-burger-king-and-walmart-using-alabama-prisoners-as-cheap-labour-a-two-year-investigation-has-found/

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