Imagine if no one treated life as a zero-sum game and only agreed to play in co-op mode?
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@alice The first exercise assigned in a Negotiations class I took was to hold hands with a partner with our elbows to the desk, for everyone to be awarded one point for each time the back of their partner's hand touched the desk. Most pairs immediately started arm wrestling, but it turned out we had let our assumptions override the actual instructions: The partners could have cooperated to take turns letting each other push their hands down to the desk, meaning the few team members who cooperated to touch the desk as much as possible scored the most points while the arm-wrestlers lost out. It was a perception-expander that changed our idea of what a negotiation could be, and really it's applicable to life in general.
@ljwrites @alice Oh, hey, my grad school officemate took a negotiation class where they did presumably the same exercise (though I don't remember it being described quite that way -- possibly they were specifically told to arm-wrestle? Or possibly they just assumed.)
Anyway, he started arm-wrestling with his partner and then...
...SNAP. Suddenly his arm was dangling from a point in the middle where arms are not supposed to bend.
Yup, he had completely shattered his humerus.
I guess he learned the lesson about cooperation vs competition the hardest possible way.
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@irene @ljwrites @alice lol, just to be clear, this is the same person I just posted about, it is not like there is an epidemic of people breaking their arms in negotiation class.
Well, maybe there is.
I subsequently learned that this is a pretty common injury for professional arm wrestlers (something I also subsequently learned exists)
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@irene @ljwrites @alice lol, just to be clear, this is the same person I just posted about, it is not like there is an epidemic of people breaking their arms in negotiation class.
Well, maybe there is.
I subsequently learned that this is a pretty common injury for professional arm wrestlers (something I also subsequently learned exists)
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@dan @irene @alice Oh no, the instructor could have told you the next class at least 🤣 but I guess the situation was maybe a bit too serious. That's the worst thing I heard happen in a negotiation class since an incident where our instructors taught a course to Samsung employees and HR decided to fire a woman who they deemed too aggressive and uncooperative in the exercises. The instructors managed to beg them to reverse course, but shit these classes can be high-stakes huh
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@alice The first exercise assigned in a Negotiations class I took was to hold hands with a partner with our elbows to the desk, for everyone to be awarded one point for each time the back of their partner's hand touched the desk. Most pairs immediately started arm wrestling, but it turned out we had let our assumptions override the actual instructions: The partners could have cooperated to take turns letting each other push their hands down to the desk, meaning the few team members who cooperated to touch the desk as much as possible scored the most points while the arm-wrestlers lost out. It was a perception-expander that changed our idea of what a negotiation could be, and really it's applicable to life in general.
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@jordgubben much as IQ is a bullshit score (147 and I use Arch, btw)¹, that's one of those stats that I want to believe—specifically because experience tells me that the folx who think they have exceptional IQs, talk about having "galaxy brain" opinions, and tout that "grindset mindset" are the schmucks that most of us would refer to as "shitty people".
¹ I'm kidding; I don't use Arch anymore 😋
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@alice The first exercise assigned in a Negotiations class I took was to hold hands with a partner with our elbows to the desk, for everyone to be awarded one point for each time the back of their partner's hand touched the desk. Most pairs immediately started arm wrestling, but it turned out we had let our assumptions override the actual instructions: The partners could have cooperated to take turns letting each other push their hands down to the desk, meaning the few team members who cooperated to touch the desk as much as possible scored the most points while the arm-wrestlers lost out. It was a perception-expander that changed our idea of what a negotiation could be, and really it's applicable to life in general.
This sounds like the prisoner's dilemma, but some folks are starting with different assumptions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma
"The prisoner's dilemma is a game theory thought experiment involving two *rational* agents...."
Bazinga!
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@irene @ljwrites @alice lol, just to be clear, this is the same person I just posted about, it is not like there is an epidemic of people breaking their arms in negotiation class.
Well, maybe there is.
I subsequently learned that this is a pretty common injury for professional arm wrestlers (something I also subsequently learned exists)
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@lispi314 that was mostly for the joke, but I did use Arch for like a year-ish just to see what it was like. Then I got a different laptop and I went back to Kubuntu (which typically just works, is familiar, and is customizable enough to suit my tastes).
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This sounds like the prisoner's dilemma, but some folks are starting with different assumptions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma
"The prisoner's dilemma is a game theory thought experiment involving two *rational* agents...."
Bazinga!
@KrajciTom *rational agents*...with knowledge of the possible outcomes of their actions on the other players.
Even the Prisoner's Dilemma has an optimal play, and that's to cooperate unless the other player defects. It's the paradox of tolerance—if they don't abide by the social contract of cooperation, then they aren't protected by it.
Edit: I studied a lot of game theory in college when I was training to be a criminal profiler for the FBI.
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@irene @ljwrites @alice lol, just to be clear, this is the same person I just posted about, it is not like there is an epidemic of people breaking their arms in negotiation class.
Well, maybe there is.
I subsequently learned that this is a pretty common injury for professional arm wrestlers (something I also subsequently learned exists)
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@GeoffWozniak god I hope so.
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Things I learned from FOSDEM / Guix Days:
- The MNT and Guix communities feel like they have a lot of overlap AND THEY DO
- The pocket reform is awesome and Guix users know it
- Everyone agrees purple is the best color (thank you I will not be soliciting further opinions on paint for the bikeshed at this time)
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Motore in folle. Settore auto: tra crisi verticale e cambiamento radicale
@anarchia
Nell’autunno scorso il patrimonio industriale italiano ha ricevuto un altro durissimo colpo: gli indiani di Tata hanno comprato IVECO. Il nostro governo ha balbettato qualche frase di circostanza e l’acquirente ha promesso di mantenere qui gli impegni produttivi per due...
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Torino, violenze nel carcere “Lorusso-Cutugno”: 8 agenti condannati
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@wingo perhaps something like a survey paper?
https://dl.acm.org/journal/csur
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concept: a paper that has one section, “related work”
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@estrogenandspite whoa, watch where you point that thing 🙈😸
