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l'adultisme ("wrong") que du validisme
I am not familar with those terms. I was not picking out different "behaviours" or styles of thinking, but different diseases of the brain.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopathie?useskin=vector
Congenital.@gemlog oui j'avais compris ça ^^
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@amans Yes, we are in accord. I must reply you in english, but please keep your language to the french. This is my fault, sorry.
About mental health, I think we must admit that some forms of dysfunction of the mind and thinking are curable, treatable and other forms are not?
I know there is a kind of taboo about mental health in all countries - some more than others.
Encore une fois, veuillez répondre en français.
This is a fun discussion for me - thank you so much! :-)@gemlog je ne suis pas d'accord avec l'intégralité de ce que vous énoncez là : pour moi tous les désordres de l'esprit sont curables. Même si souvent ça n'aura pas lieu, théoriquement je crois cela possible
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@amans Yes, we are in accord. I must reply you in english, but please keep your language to the french. This is my fault, sorry.
About mental health, I think we must admit that some forms of dysfunction of the mind and thinking are curable, treatable and other forms are not?
I know there is a kind of taboo about mental health in all countries - some more than others.
Encore une fois, veuillez répondre en français.
This is a fun discussion for me - thank you so much! :-)@gemlog en d'autres termes, je ne crois pas que la sociopathie soit congénitale. Même si telle affection génétique ou prédisposition peut bien sûr contribuer à des troubles mentaux... Je crois que l'épigénétique et l'apprentissage sont plus significativement engagés à cet endroit
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l'adultisme ("wrong") que du validisme
I am not familar with those terms. I was not picking out different "behaviours" or styles of thinking, but different diseases of the brain.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopathie?useskin=vector
Congenital.@gemlog je vous rejoins concernant le tabou qui existent à ces sujets
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@gemlog oui j'avais compris ça ^^
@amans OK good! We may get along! :-)
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@gemlog je ne suis pas d'accord avec l'intégralité de ce que vous énoncez là : pour moi tous les désordres de l'esprit sont curables. Même si souvent ça n'aura pas lieu, théoriquement je crois cela possible
@amans Well, we now have a basis for discussion, because I think that there are many brain problems which are not curable, although I agree some errors of thinking or imbalances of chemicals in the brain may be corrected through drugs or talk therapy.
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@gemlog en d'autres termes, je ne crois pas que la sociopathie soit congénitale. Même si telle affection génétique ou prédisposition peut bien sûr contribuer à des troubles mentaux... Je crois que l'épigénétique et l'apprentissage sont plus significativement engagés à cet endroit
@amans I never said it was inherited genetically...
Hmm. Maybe I implied it.
I am open to rethinking this bit.
Now.Je crois que l'épigénétique et l'apprentissage sont plus significativement engagés à cet endroit
Now you introduce epigenetics! :-)
I am open to your line of thinking. I am.
I am already suspecting that I am wrong.
But let us remember that I am UTC-8 from you in our deliberations.
I must go to bed soon. It's 23h32 for me and I must work tomorrow - yes, even at my age.
Thank you so much for engaging with me. We will continue more when our time zones match up better. Bonne nuit. Je suis fatigué maintenant. 🫂 -
@gemlog je vous rejoins concernant le tabou qui existent à ces sujets
@amans Ah oui. I agree the taboo.
It happens that my work and volunteering brings me in contact with people who have such situations in their lives.
It's not fair how societe thinks.
I know many lovely people who just can't think and work outside of a managed place of living.
I do befriend them.
I also actually work alongside people who live in outpatient psych wards.
These are normal, nice people.
Just with some medical brain issues.
I was not talking about them at the start of our conversation.
I was talking about predator, psychopath, sociopath, greedy bastards like ... fill the blank. You can't fix those with talk therapy or medicines.
Sorry.
I'm getting a bit wound up now thinking about trump, netenyahu, putin and the rest...
I need to get to sleep. It's 23h44.
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@amans I never said it was inherited genetically...
Hmm. Maybe I implied it.
I am open to rethinking this bit.
Now.Je crois que l'épigénétique et l'apprentissage sont plus significativement engagés à cet endroit
Now you introduce epigenetics! :-)
I am open to your line of thinking. I am.
I am already suspecting that I am wrong.
But let us remember that I am UTC-8 from you in our deliberations.
I must go to bed soon. It's 23h32 for me and I must work tomorrow - yes, even at my age.
Thank you so much for engaging with me. We will continue more when our time zones match up better. Bonne nuit. Je suis fatigué maintenant. 🫂@amans and now it's 00h34... :-) I will really go do-does now.
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@amans Ah oui. I agree the taboo.
It happens that my work and volunteering brings me in contact with people who have such situations in their lives.
It's not fair how societe thinks.
I know many lovely people who just can't think and work outside of a managed place of living.
I do befriend them.
I also actually work alongside people who live in outpatient psych wards.
These are normal, nice people.
Just with some medical brain issues.
I was not talking about them at the start of our conversation.
I was talking about predator, psychopath, sociopath, greedy bastards like ... fill the blank. You can't fix those with talk therapy or medicines.
Sorry.
I'm getting a bit wound up now thinking about trump, netenyahu, putin and the rest...
I need to get to sleep. It's 23h44.
Sorry.@gemlog pas de problème avec les décalages, pas d'urgence à ... whatever ? en l'occurrence
Oui c'est bien d'avoir commencé à identifier là où nous ne sommes pas d'accord !
"You can't fix those" : d'accord & pas accord
- "Je" : en effet de là où je suis ça semble à peu près impossible 😅😬🙄😶- "réparer" : est-ce que l'esprit humain se répare ? Qu'est-ce que la guérison ? Le soin ? Le "rétablissement" ? Ces questions sont très difficiles, et je crois que le médecin, a fortiori le psychiatre, qui y répond de façon tranchée oublie que sa discipline tient davantage - ou du moins tout autant - de l'art que de la science 🐾🫗🌒🎰🎭
- "ceux-là" : le problème .../...
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