We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running.
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@briankrebs A couple of thoughts:
1. Other countries may, and I think probably, will impose similar requirements on US people trying to enter those counties. In other words, the US would approach becoming a closed kingdom, like N. Korea.
2. Just wait until someone remembers Little Bobby Tables (image below).
3. The data will leak (or more likely, be sold.)
@karlauerbach @briankrebs LOL. As I just said in the thread. They will not reciprocate. They haven't in the last 20 years
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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. Theyâre also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit âtheir social media from the last 5 yearsâ
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include âhigh value data fieldsâ, âwhen feasibleâ
âtelephone numbers used in the last five yearsâ
-âemail addresses used in the last ten yearsâ
-âfamily number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five yearsâ
-biometrics â face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than
February 9, 2026) to be assured of
considerationFederal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
@briankrebs I don't think they realize that 1984 wasn't an instruction book.
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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. Theyâre also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit âtheir social media from the last 5 yearsâ
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include âhigh value data fieldsâ, âwhen feasibleâ
âtelephone numbers used in the last five yearsâ
-âemail addresses used in the last ten yearsâ
-âfamily number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five yearsâ
-biometrics â face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than
February 9, 2026) to be assured of
considerationFederal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
@briankrebs note to self add Rick Roll to social media before travelling next
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@briankrebs
It's almost as if all that hero-worshipping of North Korea in Trump's first term of office led him to decide to close the US border and only allow the US citizens he's deporting out and Nigel Farage in.@Stevenheywood @briankrebs Looks like even Nige has cooled off a bit lately - after being snubbed maybe.
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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. Theyâre also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit âtheir social media from the last 5 yearsâ
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include âhigh value data fieldsâ, âwhen feasibleâ
âtelephone numbers used in the last five yearsâ
-âemail addresses used in the last ten yearsâ
-âfamily number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five yearsâ
-biometrics â face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than
February 9, 2026) to be assured of
considerationFederal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
@briankrebs Great way to cut travel into the U.S. down to a small trickle of people who simply must come for whatever urgent reason.
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@briankrebs
Why didn't they just require everyone get chipped also?@RealGene @briankrebs they already did the chips in the covid vacine
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@BLTpizza @briankrebs That's right. The doofus who made this deal doesn't care about the implications: they are not his cross to bear. But what is the criteria that will be used? Who will be banned from entry? Who will be punished? Based on what? Gender? Immigration? Opinion? Are visitors seriously considering handing over their DNA and entire family, email, and social media history for a decade to the people who just murdered another civilian in cold blood?
If the US doesn't want us to visit anymore, we won't visit. TV is nice for watching football.
If the US doesn't want to buy from us, we won't buy from them. Sorry, not sorry, Amazon.
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@briankrebs wait, thats awesome! that means they are still not capable of finding this out on theirselfes!
@koratex @briankrebs They can, they're just placing the burden on the individuals now. But I think the more sinister thing is that they are going to use this to disallow those with viewpoints contrary to the regime narrative (ie, people with a fact-based understanding of the world). They'll also deny entry to those from disadvantaged backgrounds. If you don't have the luxury of a smartphone, how can you have a social media presence? And of course that's suspicious if you don't provide that info.
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I feel for anyone in the travel, tourism and hospitality industries, which make up ~ 10M jobs and ~ 3 percent of the nation's GDP. From the U.S. International Trade Administration (trade.gov)
"Inbound international travel to the United States plays a vital role in the Nationâs economy and promotes cultural exchange and understanding. Travel and tourism is the largest single services export for the United States, accounting for 22 percent of the countryâs services exports and 7 percent of all exports in 2023. The travel and tourism industry contributed $2.3 trillion to the U.S. economy in 2022 (2.97 percent of the countryâs GDP), supporting 9.5 million jobs."
@briankrebs I keep thinking about how Florida has repeatedly shot themselves in the foot.
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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. Theyâre also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit âtheir social media from the last 5 yearsâ
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include âhigh value data fieldsâ, âwhen feasibleâ
âtelephone numbers used in the last five yearsâ
-âemail addresses used in the last ten yearsâ
-âfamily number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five yearsâ
-biometrics â face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than
February 9, 2026) to be assured of
considerationFederal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
@briankrebs
sounds familiar to me...
have seen similar in another palantir country đłđł -
I'm British, white, male, aged 60-ish.
Prior to February 2016 I typically visited the USA 3 times a year for up to six weeks.
Since February 2016 I have visited the USA twice in a decade, for a total of 10 days.
Entering the USA as a foreigner, with a Republican POTUS in the White House, *never* felt safe, but under Trump it looks diabolically dangerous. (And to a glance I resemble "one of them": I'm not female or dark-skinned.)
@cstross @briankrebs I am Canadian the last time I was over that border was in the mid 80s. My sons were in a swim tournament just across the border. I never felt safe in america even back then.
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@briankrebs and coupled with immigration law having provisions that classify any kind of omission on an immigration, visa, or entry form as potential immigration fraud and grounds to disqualify the individual from ANY future status = anybody that forgets one email address or social media account theyâve had years ago is suddenly easily turned into an âillegal immigrantâ and passed into the jurisdiction of ICE for deportation and potentially a permanent life ban from the US.
@mariyadelano @briankrebs being deported by ICE is the least worst option. Its the in country shootings, death camps or illegal rendition to el salvador that would not be ideal because you forgot to include your microsoft online account that was force made when you attempted to log into your laptop with a local account.
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@briankrebs I have never travelled to the US and never will. I wouldn't know what to do in a fascist country.
@librarianbe
I've lived here all my life and I surely don't know what to do now. I have plans for travel out of the country (NL and BE) in spring, but if citizens are also required to surrender all this data to the CBP to leave or re-enter, I may have to rethink those plans. -
We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. Theyâre also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit âtheir social media from the last 5 yearsâ
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include âhigh value data fieldsâ, âwhen feasibleâ
âtelephone numbers used in the last five yearsâ
-âemail addresses used in the last ten yearsâ
-âfamily number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five yearsâ
-biometrics â face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than
February 9, 2026) to be assured of
considerationFederal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
@briankrebs Moving closer to requiring mark of the beast....
I learned about sleeper cells in the country and Cold War-era Soviet training site near Vinnytsia, Ukraine, where the Soviet KGB built a mock âAmerican townâ to train spies in everyday U.S. life and culture practicing things like driving cars, shopping, cooking, talking with âneighbors,â and other civilian routines to prepare them for infiltration into the United States. This âtownâ was reportedly constructed around 1959 and used through the 1960s so KGB operatives could rehearse how Americans lived by interacting in a setting modeled after American small towns complete with people playing roles like police officers, businessmen, bankers, and neighbors.
Why do I bring this up?
Because reading into these CIA docs my first impression was we need to shut down the country to foreigners. Then I learned that the purpose of Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations were for America to lose it's freedoms and democracy. Which they largely accomplished post 9/11 with airport security, enhanced surveillance, etc.
So although whatever Trump and the IC think they are trying to do.. it will only have the reverse effect. Playing right into playbook of foreign adversaries. America losing it's freedom and being beacon to world by offering the same freedoms.
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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. Theyâre also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit âtheir social media from the last 5 yearsâ
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include âhigh value data fieldsâ, âwhen feasibleâ
âtelephone numbers used in the last five yearsâ
-âemail addresses used in the last ten yearsâ
-âfamily number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five yearsâ
-biometrics â face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than
February 9, 2026) to be assured of
considerationFederal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
https://futurism.com/future-society/trump-adviser-larry-ellison-shadow-president
Larry Ellison's shadow presidency in action.
https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/12/larry_ellison_wants_all_data/
https://fortune.com/2025/09/28/larry-ellison-ai-surveillance-oracle-tiktok-deal-social-media/
https://blogs.oracle.com/jobsatoracle/oracle-ai-world-2025-accelerating-the-ai-age
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/09/trump-says-tiktok-should-be-tweaked-to-become-100-maga/
https://gizmodo.com/tiktok-s-latest-suitor-is-oracle-a-company-with-close-1844759645
https://www.itnews.com.au/news/former-cia-boss-joins-oracle-399524
Oracle was originally a CIA project
https://medium.com/@mostsignificant/codename-oracle-3fa5e2ccf3dbhttps://gizmodo.com/larry-ellisons-oracle-started-as-a-cia-project-1636592238
https://www.sfchronicle.com/tech/article/project-2025-oracle-19654875.php
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@briankrebs @anja Soon this will apply to American citizens.
@meltedcheese @briankrebs @anja Agreed. I would expect that to either leave or return.
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I feel for anyone in the travel, tourism and hospitality industries, which make up ~ 10M jobs and ~ 3 percent of the nation's GDP. From the U.S. International Trade Administration (trade.gov)
"Inbound international travel to the United States plays a vital role in the Nationâs economy and promotes cultural exchange and understanding. Travel and tourism is the largest single services export for the United States, accounting for 22 percent of the countryâs services exports and 7 percent of all exports in 2023. The travel and tourism industry contributed $2.3 trillion to the U.S. economy in 2022 (2.97 percent of the countryâs GDP), supporting 9.5 million jobs."
None of this is about making America great again. This is a systemic dismantling of American power and prestige on all fronts, domestically and internationally, destroying existing alliances for both security and economic.
There's only one reason for all of this and it is to leave the US vulnerable to her enemies.
Until Americans accept this fact, the partisan divisions that have been exploited FOR THIS PURPOSE will hasten its destruction.
There are only a few people happy about that. I think that is the defining line between us and them.
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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. Theyâre also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit âtheir social media from the last 5 yearsâ
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include âhigh value data fieldsâ, âwhen feasibleâ
âtelephone numbers used in the last five yearsâ
-âemail addresses used in the last ten yearsâ
-âfamily number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five yearsâ
-biometrics â face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than
February 9, 2026) to be assured of
considerationFederal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
@briankrebs I don't remember a number of those things even if I wanted to.
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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. Theyâre also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit âtheir social media from the last 5 yearsâ
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include âhigh value data fieldsâ, âwhen feasibleâ
âtelephone numbers used in the last five yearsâ
-âemail addresses used in the last ten yearsâ
-âfamily number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five yearsâ
-biometrics â face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than
February 9, 2026) to be assured of
considerationFederal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
@briankrebs As far as I am concerned this will work as designed - I won't be visiting the USA.
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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. Theyâre also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit âtheir social media from the last 5 yearsâ
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include âhigh value data fieldsâ, âwhen feasibleâ
âtelephone numbers used in the last five yearsâ
-âemail addresses used in the last ten yearsâ
-âfamily number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five yearsâ
-biometrics â face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than
February 9, 2026) to be assured of
considerationFederal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
@briankrebs well I guess I am not going to the US anytime soon soon.
Gli ultimi otto messaggi ricevuti dalla Federazione
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Referendum. Bonfietti: âAl referendum voto no, la riforma non risolve i problemi della giustiziaâ
@giornalismo
articolo21.org/2026/03/referenâŠ
âLe norme per lâautonomia e lâindipendenza della magistratura, credo che siano ancora
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âPerchĂ© Noâ, il 14 marzo a Brindisi
@giornalismo
articolo21.org/2026/03/perche-âŠ
Sabato 14 marzo 2026 alle ore 17.30, presso la Sala Conferenze dellâAutoritĂ Portuale di Brindisi, si terrĂ lâincontro pubblico dal titolo âPerchĂ© NOâ, promosso nellâambito delle iniziative territoriali del fronte del No in vista del referendum sulla giustizia.
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@Colman @Tattie @ariaflame @cstross
That calls back to the hubris I mention up-thread. They 'know better'âŠ
FWIW? It isn't only fascists who ignore inconvenient facts. All of us do it in one way or another. It's a very human cognitive failure mode.
And it's a big reason I push Stoicism as a humanistic day-to-day philosophy. Because acknowledging your own faults is the first step in overcoming them.
The people we're talking about are Emoitionalists. They believe their feelings define reality.
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@cstross "Why Trump didn't plan for the strait of hormuz?"
"cause he's a fucking moron."
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@AdriBel io lo farei, ma sono un ufficio durante le gare đ„Č Mia moglie lavora in smart working e le riesce a seguire
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@jackwilliambell @Tattie @ariaflame @cstross this isnât about different interpretations of agreed facts. This is outright denial of facts and complete disregard for any higher order consequences of their actions.
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