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  4. Listen, Bluesky fails in moderation and when it happens, you're 100% silenced.

Listen, Bluesky fails in moderation and when it happens, you're 100% silenced.

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  • Osma A ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆundefined Questo utente รจ esterno a questo forum
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    #1

    Listen, Bluesky fails in moderation and when it happens, you're 100% silenced. But Mastodon teams regularly fail in moderation too, and some of them have influence which spreads through the fedi. Not sure it's much better.
    https://aftermath.site/bluesky-charlie-kirk-dead-rest-in-piss

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    • Osma A ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆundefined Osma A ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

      Listen, Bluesky fails in moderation and when it happens, you're 100% silenced. But Mastodon teams regularly fail in moderation too, and some of them have influence which spreads through the fedi. Not sure it's much better.
      https://aftermath.site/bluesky-charlie-kirk-dead-rest-in-piss

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      #2

      @osma In my humble opinion, it's impossible to have a perfect moderation, one that got all my nuances, for free, on a millions user social network.
      You can have that, just on decentralized social networks, if you own the instance, or the pds.
      Or if you are a journalist and it's owned by your newspaper.

      Then you're responsible for what you say, and for what your readers understand.

      Osma A ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆundefined 1 Risposta Ultima Risposta
      • Luca Sironiundefined Luca Sironi

        @osma In my humble opinion, it's impossible to have a perfect moderation, one that got all my nuances, for free, on a millions user social network.
        You can have that, just on decentralized social networks, if you own the instance, or the pds.
        Or if you are a journalist and it's owned by your newspaper.

        Then you're responsible for what you say, and for what your readers understand.

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        No, you can't. If you own the server/instance/pds you're less likely to be completely thrown out, but no less likely to be silenced (by intent or error) with practically no recourse. Federation/decentralization just changes the management of moderation.

        Responsibility over what you say bears little relation to moderation actions taken by unrelated third parties.
        @luca

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          No, you can't. If you own the server/instance/pds you're less likely to be completely thrown out, but no less likely to be silenced (by intent or error) with practically no recourse. Federation/decentralization just changes the management of moderation.

          Responsibility over what you say bears little relation to moderation actions taken by unrelated third parties.
          @luca

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          @osma

          the point, for me, is that by using bluesky or blacksky , or mastodon.social , to some extent you are exchanging timeline discoverability with mass moderation.

          If you own the server, nobody can tell you what to write.
          Of course, if those servers label/silence your content, less people will read you, but that to me is more fair.

          You can't have the cake and eat it

          I think I'm a relatively decent person, I can behave properly without a third part

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            @osma

            the point, for me, is that by using bluesky or blacksky , or mastodon.social , to some extent you are exchanging timeline discoverability with mass moderation.

            If you own the server, nobody can tell you what to write.
            Of course, if those servers label/silence your content, less people will read you, but that to me is more fair.

            You can't have the cake and eat it

            I think I'm a relatively decent person, I can behave properly without a third part

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            in a way magpie math is kinda refreshing, like imagine not throwing everything away every few years because of industry fads

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            @halcy :3

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            astronomy math is out of this fucking world btw like want to know where the moon is? great buckle up you're in for a few hundred years of bizarre hacks and lots of exciting questions like "wait, why are they using the julian calendar?"

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            No, you can't. If you own the server/instance/pds you're less likely to be completely thrown out, but no less likely to be silenced (by intent or error) with practically no recourse. Federation/decentralization just changes the management of moderation.

            Responsibility over what you say bears little relation to moderation actions taken by unrelated third parties.
            @luca

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