This is one of the worst takes from LLM enthusiasts.

[davidgerard@circumstances.run]

@arroz it's like watching bitcoiners talk about how they think money works

[zzt@mas.to]

@arroz “LLMs are natural language compilers”, brought to you by the same kids insisting their product is “the operating system for the web” because nothing means anything if you ignore all implementation and engineering details

[puppygirlhornypost2@transfem.social]

@zzt@mas.to @arroz@mastodon.social Ah because if it's one thing compilers are known for it's being non-deterministic 😭

[gbargoud@masto.nyc]

@arroz @dmitriid @zeank

Have you seen https://www.colincornaby.me/2025/08/in-the-future-all-food-will-be-cooked-in-a-microwave-and-if-you-cant-deal-with-that-then-you-need-to-get-out-of-the-kitchen/

[cap_ybarra@beige.party]

@arroz @stroughtonsmith that take you reposted is hella embarassing. thanks for pointing out another slop enthusiast to mute!

[duke_of_germany@mastodon.gamedev.place]

What I see a lot in these AI guy circles is this kind of "magical thinking" about how things work.

And these (confidently expressed) naive takes are not only about LLMs, but also about countless other well-documented, well-researched topics like compilers.

Who are these guys?

@arroz

[lobstermane@mastodon.social]

@arroz To be honest, the whole take of the original post reads like slop. LLMs tend to conflate different concepts with each other and if you have no idea what you’re talking about, it will sound very convincing.

[greatbigtable@mastodon.social]

@GeoffWozniak @arroz

Looks like CWE's are back on the menu!

https://blog.vidocsecurity.com/blog/vibe-coding-security-vulnerabilities

[orb2069@mastodon.online]

@zzt @arroz

Imagine if CS was like ANY other engineering discipline.

[aspensmonster@tenforward.social]

@Orb2069 @zzt @arroz I find that exercise preferable to imagining other engineering disciplines becoming more like CS.

[orb2069@mastodon.online]

@aspensmonster @zzt @arroz

Vibe coded skyscrapers.

[joelvanderwerf@mastodon.social]

@arroz How does he think source-level debuggers will work under that analogy?

[mwolak@mastodon.social]

@arroz I know who *will* be manually reviewing the generated code: the people in the black hats.

[abucci@buc.ci]

@zzt@mas.to @arroz@mastodon.social https://buc.ci/abucci/p/1769891986.847341

[makdaam@chaos.social]

@Orb2069 @aspensmonster @zzt @arroz There was a preview of that. Search the history of highrises in UK, especially the ones built in the 1960s and 1970s.
You can save so much on tall buildings by not building 2 stories of cellars those silly continental architects added to the design. Or you can just copy paste a building on top of itself to double the number of livable floors from 6 to 12, right?

[angry_drunk@union.place]

@zzt @arroz The sheer volume of developers that I have lost respect for in the last two years is just staggering.

[sharpcheddargoblin@kolektiva.social]

@angry_drunk @zzt @arroz I despise all of my coworkers and the company I work for. I'm just going to retire early when I'm finally let go due to slopcoding and then work on limiting my life's contact with software, since it's all going to be buggy and insecure garbage. I guess I'll be a hermit and write a manifesto.

[stompyrobot@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@arroz

The trick is to get the LLM to generate a spec and an acceptance test for the change you want to make, and verify the test.

[zygmyd@toot.cat]

@angry_drunk @zzt @arroz

And executives. Seeing who are the bandwagon jumpers and who are being thoughtful about things.

[pmonks@sfba.social]

@arroz These systems are Dunning-Kruger-as-a-service, and that thread is a textbook example of why.