@dansup hmmm I sort of understand, but why is the conversion even required? Why can't the alphanumeric things be the database keys themselves? Why must they be just numbers?

@bojanlandekic the long numbers are the keys to each video, but are long, so we convert them to a shorter alphanumeric string by leveraging a longer "alphabet" to represent the numbers more efficiently.

@dansup I don't understand why do you have to convert the alphanumeric string to just numbers though?

Loops also uses snowflake ids for ActivityPub actor identifiers!

I noticed that Mastodon has adopted this too, great to see. I will be bringing this to Pixelfed later this year as well 😁

https://browser.pub/https://loops.video/ap/users/1

#Loops #ActivityPub #LoopsDev

RE: https://mastodon.social/@dansup/115876278291815667

They also are ActivityPub objects that expand to the full id ✨

We use snowflake ids, then hashids in permalinks that expand. It's beautifully simple, yet clever.

d9VqOD2_gu => 236972985113375774

https://browser.pub/https://loops.video/v/d86zgftFT9?rid=d9VqOD2_gu

#ActivityPub

@benpate @maikel IMO, the "shipping stuff is hard", while true, isn't the issue. If you had created Emissary 8 years ago and stopped updating it after the first release (even with massive user feedback about UX and technical issues), your project would either be dead or massively forked (if there was enough interest). Even if you had a small release to fix a few serious bugs after eight years, that wouldn't be sufficient. If it weren't for Mastodon, AP would effectively be a dead protocol.

@maikel@vmst.io not surprising in the slightest considering ChatGPT is trained on public discourse, and most AP development discussions involve how much Mastodon fails at x y and z. Being the big fish means everybody takes pot shots at you.

So it's just a reflection of the training data. Us.

@benpate@mastodon.social you're just feeding the AI machine! 😱

@mat talk of purity can only make all other platforms connect better among themselves. Yet every time someone implements Activity Pub the first burden they find is "ooops, this gives an error from Mastodon side".

Standards exist for this very reason.

I agree with you with meeting in the middle, but Msatodon has been up since 2016, Activity Pub since 2018, we're on 2026. Mastodon migrated in late 2017 early 2018 before the spec was even fully ratified. It's been more than 8 years.

If at-the-very-least it didn't have the "huge undocumented behaviours", it wouldn't be stalling all other AP implementers.

@benpate