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  4. "The reason that ATProto and ActivityPub developers don't collaborate is that ActivityPub developers are rude."

"The reason that ATProto and ActivityPub developers don't collaborate is that ActivityPub developers are rude."

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    "The reason that ATProto and ActivityPub developers don't collaborate is that ActivityPub developers are rude."

    #EvanPoll #poll

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      "The reason that ATProto and ActivityPub developers don't collaborate is that ActivityPub developers are rude."

      #EvanPoll #poll

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      @evan A poll would be irrelevant, it should be asked to the ATproto developers

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      • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

        "The reason that ATProto and ActivityPub developers don't collaborate is that ActivityPub developers are rude."

        #EvanPoll #poll

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        @evan differnt AP platforms don't really collaborate.

        I doubt rudness is a factor, you seem nice 🙂 lol

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        • ꙮ liilliil 🇫🇯🇱🇨🇱🇧undefined ꙮ liilliil 🇫🇯🇱🇨🇱🇧

          @evan A poll would be irrelevant, it should be asked to the ATproto developers

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          @liilliil Why's that?

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          • Evan Prodromouundefined Evan Prodromou

            @liilliil Why's that?

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            @evan Because on our end, the result will be predictable

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            • ꙮ liilliil 🇫🇯🇱🇨🇱🇧undefined ꙮ liilliil 🇫🇯🇱🇨🇱🇧

              @evan Because on our end, the result will be predictable

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              @liilliil you should definitely run that poll, then.

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              • Ozzyundefined Ozzy

                @evan differnt AP platforms don't really collaborate.

                I doubt rudness is a factor, you seem nice 🙂 lol

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                @ozzy Thank you!

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                • skaundefined
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                  julian Oh, you're right. I never did it manually and they must have defederated for some reason.

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                • Evan Prodromouundefined
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                • julianundefined
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                  ska can you please check that those three posts are actually federated outwards?

                  The human-readable URLs don't contain the expected Link header to the ActivityPub resource.

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                • julianundefined
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                • skaundefined
                  ska

                  julian said in Can't view my Wordpress federated post:
                  > ska which one doesn't work?
                  >
                  > Does it work here?

                  I'm still on the dev branch and almost all of them work, but not all. For example:

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                  These don't work.

                  In the logs, only the GET request is visible, but without the response.

                  Most of those that didn't work before now do, such as: https://www.lealternative.net/2025/09/10/abbiamo-provato-la-vpn-a-pagamento-di-duckduckgo/

                  Also, all Mastodon posts now seem to work, whereas many had problems before.

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