Wait hold on I just realized.
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…Also waaaa why did the character rendering change so much when I copied from Pleco to Tusky. Who gave eight a hat
In Pleco they look like this. I don't know if this is a different but regular hanzi font or if the CJK unification is messing me up somehow
EDIT: I currently think Tusky is showing me Japanese character variants https://social.mildlyfunctional.gay/@artemist/116146010272716935
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Wait hold on I just realized. Is
八人入
A reasonable Chinese sentence
@mcc reminds me of those super long tonal language tonguetwister examples where it's a sentence where if you print out the phonemicization absent the tonal marks it looks like the same thing a billionty times
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In Pleco they look like this. I don't know if this is a different but regular hanzi font or if the CJK unification is messing me up somehow
EDIT: I currently think Tusky is showing me Japanese character variants https://social.mildlyfunctional.gay/@artemist/116146010272716935
@mcc
That 8 with a side stroke is regular japanese. It *seems* it's without the stroke in mandarin but of course I get the japanese version when rendered as unicode.Edit: also, in casual handwriting you'd usually skip the side stroke in japanese as well.
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In Pleco they look like this. I don't know if this is a different but regular hanzi font or if the CJK unification is messing me up somehow
EDIT: I currently think Tusky is showing me Japanese character variants https://social.mildlyfunctional.gay/@artemist/116146010272716935
This is what Tusky looks like.
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Wait hold on I just realized. Is
八人入
A reasonable Chinese sentence
@mcc eight people... fighting over a wishbone?
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This is what Tusky looks like.
@mcc Maybe it's too cold where they're from, and they need to wear hats.
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This is what Tusky looks like.
WAIT WTF this is an actual Chinese IME and it seems to be showing me Japanese characters. Ok I think Lenovo is fucking with me, one minute
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In Pleco they look like this. I don't know if this is a different but regular hanzi font or if the CJK unification is messing me up somehow
EDIT: I currently think Tusky is showing me Japanese character variants https://social.mildlyfunctional.gay/@artemist/116146010272716935
@mcc damn you got han unified
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Wait hold on I just realized. Is
八人入
A reasonable Chinese sentence
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WAIT WTF this is an actual Chinese IME and it seems to be showing me Japanese characters. Ok I think Lenovo is fucking with me, one minute
@mcc han unification strikes again
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WAIT WTF this is an actual Chinese IME and it seems to be showing me Japanese characters. Ok I think Lenovo is fucking with me, one minute
@mcc are you on ubuntu still?
https://www.thomasvanderberg.nl/blog/fix-cjk-font-order-linux/
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This is what Tusky looks like.
@mcc I love Tusky but they gotta fix the quote posting
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In Pleco they look like this. I don't know if this is a different but regular hanzi font or if the CJK unification is messing me up somehow
EDIT: I currently think Tusky is showing me Japanese character variants https://social.mildlyfunctional.gay/@artemist/116146010272716935
@mcc hmm. My Tusky also looks like this?
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@mcc
That 8 with a side stroke is regular japanese. It *seems* it's without the stroke in mandarin but of course I get the japanese version when rendered as unicode.Edit: also, in casual handwriting you'd usually skip the side stroke in japanese as well.
@jannem @mcc Yep, on the Joyo Kanji list (probably the closest thing Japan has to an "official reference implementation" for common kanji), the "main entry" has the sidestroke, but elsewhere in the document this is explicitly identified as a "fude-osae" (a kind of initial or closing "flourish of the brush", cp. serif) that can be left out (or lengthened!). Elementary school students are taught to write the version without.
https://www.bunka.go.jp/kokugo_nihongo/sisaku/joho/joho/kijun/naikaku/pdf/joyokanjihyo_20101130.pdf
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WAIT WTF this is an actual Chinese IME and it seems to be showing me Japanese characters. Ok I think Lenovo is fucking with me, one minute
Okay I now believe the problem is neither Tusky nor Lenovo but rather that Android is not a serious product and never has been. It seems Android may outright refuse to show scripts unless you've whitelisted the language. Problem: I think this menu is asking me which version of Chinese I want but the menu is in Chinese. I want to look at Chinese text so I can learn Chinese. I don't know it yet. I feel like I'm playing an adventure game.
* I may explore a PR later anyway.
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Okay I now believe the problem is neither Tusky nor Lenovo but rather that Android is not a serious product and never has been. It seems Android may outright refuse to show scripts unless you've whitelisted the language. Problem: I think this menu is asking me which version of Chinese I want but the menu is in Chinese. I want to look at Chinese text so I can learn Chinese. I don't know it yet. I feel like I'm playing an adventure game.
* I may explore a PR later anyway.
Actually I'm pretty sure 简 already means simplified, so I selected simplified at the top level, and this second menu is asking… I don't know. Locale? TTS dialect?!
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Okay I now believe the problem is neither Tusky nor Lenovo but rather that Android is not a serious product and never has been. It seems Android may outright refuse to show scripts unless you've whitelisted the language. Problem: I think this menu is asking me which version of Chinese I want but the menu is in Chinese. I want to look at Chinese text so I can learn Chinese. I don't know it yet. I feel like I'm playing an adventure game.
* I may explore a PR later anyway.
@mcc this does not seem to be a Tusky issue for me? Pixel 7 Pro, fwiw.
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@mcc are you on ubuntu still?
https://www.thomasvanderberg.nl/blog/fix-cjk-font-order-linux/
@dcbaok if I've somehow got onto Ubuntu I'm more screwed than I thought
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Actually I'm pretty sure 简 already means simplified, so I selected simplified at the top level, and this second menu is asking… I don't know. Locale? TTS dialect?!
@mcc not sure about the context it'll be used in, but the choices are:
* Mainland China
* Macau (you'd never guess this without looking it up)
* Hong Kong
* Singapore -
@mcc this does not seem to be a Tusky issue for me? Pixel 7 Pro, fwiw.
@Ongion I appear to have previously configured Japanese as an allowed language on this laptop (or it shipped that way?) and that's making it do weird things