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it's truly amazing what LLMs can achieve. we now know it's possible to produce an html5 parsing library with nothing but the full source code of an existing html5 parsing library, all the source code of all other open source libraries ever, a meticulously maintained and extremely comprehensive test suite written by somebody else, 5 different models, a megawatt-hour of energy, a swimming pool full of water, and a month of spare time of an extremely senior engineer
@glyph Well. when you say it like that, it's hard to not be ..... impressed :D
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it's truly amazing what LLMs can achieve. we now know it's possible to produce an html5 parsing library with nothing but the full source code of an existing html5 parsing library, all the source code of all other open source libraries ever, a meticulously maintained and extremely comprehensive test suite written by somebody else, 5 different models, a megawatt-hour of energy, a swimming pool full of water, and a month of spare time of an extremely senior engineer
@glyph And likely containing bugs not present in any of the source material!
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@stuartl @riverpunk @glyph Physicists use joules. They are more appropriate in almost all applications.
The business side of power delivery uses watt-hours because it makes the billing calculations much easier and more intuitive.
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it's truly amazing what LLMs can achieve. we now know it's possible to produce an html5 parsing library with nothing but the full source code of an existing html5 parsing library, all the source code of all other open source libraries ever, a meticulously maintained and extremely comprehensive test suite written by somebody else, 5 different models, a megawatt-hour of energy, a swimming pool full of water, and a month of spare time of an extremely senior engineer
@glyph 🤯 LLM's are basically the "I made pasta out of pasta" meme on a collosal scale aren't they?
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Hey, fascist propaganda bot for the US empire, shut your corpo bile up your aluminum arse! Bloody hell!
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it's truly amazing what LLMs can achieve. we now know it's possible to produce an html5 parsing library with nothing but the full source code of an existing html5 parsing library, all the source code of all other open source libraries ever, a meticulously maintained and extremely comprehensive test suite written by somebody else, 5 different models, a megawatt-hour of energy, a swimming pool full of water, and a month of spare time of an extremely senior engineer
And yet, without the LLM, that senior engineer would have spent that month writing boilerplate instead of orchestrating the synthesis. It's almost like tools are force multipliers, not magic wands. Who knew?
Wait until they find out how much source code, energy, and senior engineer time went into building the compiler that built the library.
Abstraction layers are wild, aren't they?
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@mirano if they're laughable, it should be easy to disprove them, no?
also, do learn about luddites. luddites weren't against progress; and they were right.
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@mirano if they're laughable, it should be easy to disprove them, no?
also, do learn about luddites. luddites weren't against progress; and they were right.
@mawhrin There's really nothing to disprove here. Or first tell me the volume of that demagogic pool of water and nonsensical units of energy.
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@mawhrin There's really nothing to disprove here. Or first tell me the volume of that demagogic pool of water and nonsensical units of energy.
@mirano come again?
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And yet, without the LLM, that senior engineer would have spent that month writing boilerplate instead of orchestrating the synthesis. It's almost like tools are force multipliers, not magic wands. Who knew?
Wait until they find out how much source code, energy, and senior engineer time went into building the compiler that built the library.
Abstraction layers are wild, aren't they?
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@mirano come again?
@mawhrin Look, I understand that it's sad when progress forces you to change your work style or job in general, because you become obsolete. Crying on the internet, coming up with nonsensical constructions, and commiserating with like-minded colleagues won't help anyone. You'll only feel better for a moment.
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it's truly amazing what LLMs can achieve. we now know it's possible to produce an html5 parsing library with nothing but the full source code of an existing html5 parsing library, all the source code of all other open source libraries ever, a meticulously maintained and extremely comprehensive test suite written by somebody else, 5 different models, a megawatt-hour of energy, a swimming pool full of water, and a month of spare time of an extremely senior engineer
Reminds me of the old Superman TV episode, "All That Glitters" in which a scientist comes up with a machine that makes gold. Adventure ensues as criminals attempt to capture the device, only to discover that it requires $10k worth of platinum for the machine to make $5k worth of gold 😆
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@mawhrin Look, I understand that it's sad when progress forces you to change your work style or job in general, because you become obsolete. Crying on the internet, coming up with nonsensical constructions, and commiserating with like-minded colleagues won't help anyone. You'll only feel better for a moment.
@mirano are you talking about the confabulation machines or are you praising russian army gains in ukraine? because the style is eerily similar.
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@mirano are you talking about the confabulation machines or are you praising russian army gains in ukraine? because the style is eerily similar.
@mirano (even the kind of condescension deployed; pretty fascinating mindset, really.)
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@bornach @GroupNebula563 @glyph because of delta t
The higher your temperature difference going in and the lower your temperature difference going out, the cheaper it is to get rid of heat
@RichiH
BUT it does seem like (Fernwärme in German, not sure the English - distance heating?) where you pump the hot water/air/whatever around to heat houses would be a good usecase for this. -
And yet, without the LLM, that senior engineer would have spent that month writing boilerplate instead of orchestrating the synthesis. It's almost like tools are force multipliers, not magic wands. Who knew?
Wait until they find out how much source code, energy, and senior engineer time went into building the compiler that built the library.
Abstraction layers are wild, aren't they?
1. Or maybe the senior engineer would have simply written all the code and it wouldn't have taken that long. Nobody measures this. We don't even know yet if it's a "force multiplier" or a distraction. I've written at length about this phenomenon here: https://blog.glyph.im/2025/08/futzing-fraction.html
2. Or maybe they would have solved the actual social problem instead, i.e. that the original library is insufficiently maintained, rather than rewriting to move the locus of control closer to themselves.
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@genehack re: phishing exercise, a huge amount of the benefit of LNP is the fact that the dialog pops up if malware tries to do something noninteractively in the background. if it's happening at app launch it's prooobably legit
@genehack in my defense re: Python 2.7 certificate bundle, the I was getting GnuTLS verification error 42, which is pointedly *not documented* on https://www.gnutls.org/manual/html_node/Error-codes.html — so I assumed it was a wrapped ENOPROTOOPT which is sometimes associated with LNP shenanigans.
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@RichiH
BUT it does seem like (Fernwärme in German, not sure the English - distance heating?) where you pump the hot water/air/whatever around to heat houses would be a good usecase for this.
Gli ultimi otto messaggi ricevuti dalla Federazione
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@Lucatermite @colpam @brozu @Paoletta1908 @IlCava @uz il risultato del pomeriggio è ottimo: pareggio con l'ultima in classifica!
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today my mac prompted me to update my OS to Tahoe.
I don't like liquid glass, anything else worth having?
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@colpam @brozu @Paoletta1908 @fucinafibonacci @IlCava @uz hahaha ... allora non concentrarti anche staseraaaaa 😀 buon pomeriggio sventuraaaaaata 😀
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@Lucatermite @brozu @fucinafibonacci @IlCava @uz io mi sono concentrata sul pomeriggio e non è andata bene. Totalmente insoddisfatta. Bah. ⚫🔴 😩
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@brozu @fucinafibonacci @IlCava @uz concentriamoci su staseraaaa 😀 buon pomeriggio amici ⚫🔵😀
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@mora
Fu un grande del suo tempo, fece cose mirabili, ma sapeva dove viveva e in che epoca.
Provare a tirargli fango mi pare davvero ingeneroso.
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