Tldr; I love my job, hate the Netherlands, want to move somewhere warmer but where and how?
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The US isn't an option for obvious reasons, Canada too cold, Latam too far, South Africa too murder-y, and Thailand doesn't seem convenient careerwise.
So that leaves Southern Europe.
The biggest issue is where and how. I have two cats to haul along. Do I buy a campervan and rent out my house? Where do I go?
Also, I love my work atm, can I keep doing that for as long as possible while figuring this out? And will I find a new role in the same field again?
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@Gina Consider looking into Central Europe. The climate is better and a city like Budapest is old-world beautiful and modern art the same time.
If you had not been frustrated with the weather, I would have said Edinburgh, but not going to be a popular option with your preferences. -
@michelamarie I'd like to buy a house with a garden, do you see that happening anywhere in Canada for under a million dollars?
@Gina Good question. It is possible, if you live farther away from Vancouver. Victoria is more affordable, so you could buy a house closer to the city there than you could do in Vancouver.
If you are happy to live in a townhouse, you could live closer to the cities still.
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@Gina what about Spain or Italy?
@caffetino Depending on where. I don't see myself living in a Spanish or Italian city. They have a habit of stacking houses tightly on top of each other, very little greenery, and I need space. I want a garden. Think a farmhouse.
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@Gina I can relate to all of this 😔 sadly my only options now due to Brexit and age are to win the lottery or marry someone, which is difficult when you're single 😂
If I hadn't been preoccupied with caring for eldlerly relatives I'd have grabbed Portugese residency before the dumb-ass Brexit calamity took effect.
@not_a_label oof yeah I can't even imagine if you're in the UK. You guys are basically stuck :(
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At this point I'm pretty convinced I need to buy a campervan and just travel around 😅 I've only seen a fraction of the continent.
I can't think of any scenario that doesn't come with a cost. Every scenario means digging into my savings.
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@Gina I feel you. Buying a camper van and touring Europe sounds like a good move forward.
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@Gina I suppose people already told you but you can check the Canary Islands and Madeira. They’re not hot, they’re temperate the whole year.
Greece is also a wonderful place with really nice people.
And I don’t know directly the south of Portugal, the Algarve, but people say it’s great and cheaper than Andalusia in southern Spain.
@itorres I've been to both. Madeira was a bit too small for me. Canary Islands was alright but didnt feel like home.
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The US isn't an option for obvious reasons, Canada too cold, Latam too far, South Africa too murder-y, and Thailand doesn't seem convenient careerwise.
So that leaves Southern Europe.
The biggest issue is where and how. I have two cats to haul along. Do I buy a campervan and rent out my house? Where do I go?
Also, I love my work atm, can I keep doing that for as long as possible while figuring this out? And will I find a new role in the same field again?
7/n
@Gina re: Canada being too cold.
The *temperature* here in Canada is psychopathicly cold but it often feels warmer than a damp place like NL. It’s often dry, sunny, and lower temp, but feels warmer.
I went from -20c to +3/4 in Amsterdam on one trip and it felt so much colder in NL.
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At this point I'm pretty convinced I need to buy a campervan and just travel around 😅 I've only seen a fraction of the continent.
I can't think of any scenario that doesn't come with a cost. Every scenario means digging into my savings.
8/n
@Gina Toulouse is a great city to live in. Not far from the mountains, the Atlantic ocean and the Mediterranean sea 😎
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@not_a_label oof yeah I can't even imagine if you're in the UK. You guys are basically stuck :(
@Gina yep 😢
The best option I can come up with currently is to buy a cheap lock up and leave place, spend the summers out sailing and get a campervan/4x4 to tour southern Europe for my allotted 90 Schengen days during the utterly miserable UK winter… 🤷🏻
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@Gina I’ve always thought The Netherlands wouod be a good place to live in. Probably a biased and blasé French point of view.
@hadronized Pierre you guys have fresh croissants, wine and cheese. Don't you dare move to this swamp.
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@Gina I’ve always thought The Netherlands wouod be a good place to live in. Probably a biased and blasé French point of view.
@hadronized Pierre you guys have fresh croissants, wine and cheese. Don't you dare move to this swamp.
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@hadronized Pierre you guys have fresh croissants, wine and cheese. Don't you dare move to this swamp.
@Gina haha yeah, food and healthcare in France are the main reasons why I haven’t really moved out anywhere yet. And alt-right getting more and more attention in many European countries is scary. I love Italy but yeah, not so fond of their politics…
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The US isn't an option for obvious reasons, Canada too cold, Latam too far, South Africa too murder-y, and Thailand doesn't seem convenient careerwise.
So that leaves Southern Europe.
The biggest issue is where and how. I have two cats to haul along. Do I buy a campervan and rent out my house? Where do I go?
Also, I love my work atm, can I keep doing that for as long as possible while figuring this out? And will I find a new role in the same field again?
7/n
@Gina “Too cold”?!? It’s hasn’t gotten below –40°C here since 2023!!! 🥶🧊🇨🇦
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@caffetino Depending on where. I don't see myself living in a Spanish or Italian city. They have a habit of stacking houses tightly on top of each other, very little greenery, and I need space. I want a garden. Think a farmhouse.
@Gina @caffetino but both Italy and Spain are big and there aren't just the cities. An English friend of mine bought property in Umbria in the country. A Spanish friend of mine bought a house for 40k€ (!!). In general, if you stay away from big cities and from too touristic places, there are good bargains to be made: I heard of big houses with big gardens available at 150k which is basically a steal (especially considering what I had to pay for an apartment...)
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The US isn't an option for obvious reasons, Canada too cold, Latam too far, South Africa too murder-y, and Thailand doesn't seem convenient careerwise.
So that leaves Southern Europe.
The biggest issue is where and how. I have two cats to haul along. Do I buy a campervan and rent out my house? Where do I go?
Also, I love my work atm, can I keep doing that for as long as possible while figuring this out? And will I find a new role in the same field again?
7/n
@Gina I hope it is in Europe. There is much work to undo software centralization, and people like you are doing a very important job.
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At this point I'm pretty convinced I need to buy a campervan and just travel around 😅 I've only seen a fraction of the continent.
I can't think of any scenario that doesn't come with a cost. Every scenario means digging into my savings.
8/n
@Gina I feel you. Im from the Netherlands as well. Currently in Fuertaventura for a while. We have been here before and loving it. We might even end-up moving here. Still Europe (houses still expensive), but lots of campervans because it's really compatible with the weather. It's consistently warm (winter and summer).
So, buy campervan, add cats, drive here and rent-out house to friends!
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Tldr; I love my job, hate the Netherlands, want to move somewhere warmer but where and how?
Basically that. It's time for a change. I love my current job, and I wish I could stay in that role for years to come, but a. It's temporary and b. Good god do I hate living in The Netherlands. To a point where something's gotta give.
I'll be slow posting in this thread today, not sure how many toots. Feel free to mute me if this thread becomes annoying. 🫶
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@Gina It’s really hard. Speaking from experience, moving to a different country is not easy or relatively obvious.
Being Dutch, I think you’re right, Southern Europe might be the easiest and fastest way.
The Campervan sounds like a great idea! I’d love to buy it and drive around.
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The problem with NL is that it's cold, grey, wet and miserable. Unless you like cycling through the rain (gas costs 3 dollars a liter and forget about parking), you'll be inside your house for 8 months out of the year. Even during the 2 weeks of summer, there's no nature to enjoy. We basically have 3 nature parks, which you can walk in a day. And that's it. The beaches are shit, the food is flavorless, everything looks the same. It's grey and bland every day.
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"The beaches are shit, the food is flavorless, everything looks the same. It's grey and bland every day"
The beaches aren't that bad, cook your own food and summers ar getting pretty hot:-) But the winter here is quite depressing!
Do you have the option of buying/renting a place in southern Europe? So you can spend the summers here in The Netherlands and move there in the winter?
Also so the cats don't have to move too much as they don't like that in my exper -
The US isn't an option for obvious reasons, Canada too cold, Latam too far, South Africa too murder-y, and Thailand doesn't seem convenient careerwise.
So that leaves Southern Europe.
The biggest issue is where and how. I have two cats to haul along. Do I buy a campervan and rent out my house? Where do I go?
Also, I love my work atm, can I keep doing that for as long as possible while figuring this out? And will I find a new role in the same field again?
7/n
@Gina I mean, Groningen is also pretty nice - but it only solves your problems partially 😅